Bust a Scoot?

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  1. Everything Beagle

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    Are you posting from 2008?
     
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    Low EI response!
     
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    Just think about where Ant was when he got here and where he is now. I still think Scoot is going to be much better than Ant and will get there quicker... it also helps that he's a real facilitating PG.

    I get it that he was one of three guys in a draft that had one guy at the top and the next two way ahead of the fourth. I also get it that when Joe was doing whatever the fuck he was doing between when he drafted Scoot and when Dame demanded his trade, Joe said that Scoot would help Dame win from day one. I think we have good enough talent evaluators to know that Joe for whatever reason was lying through his teeth. If you plan on giving Scoot as much time as you gave Ant, I'm pretty sure you'll be very pleasantly surprised.
     
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    I hope I’m wrong but every game I see more of scoot the lower and lower I am on him. Granted we have a horrible coach and he seems unsure of his role but I’ve never seen an nba player miss so many layups.
     
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    Well... They haven't started a "Trade Scoot" thread yet so he's probably still okay.
     
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    We all know that the only thing holding him back is Chauncey’s unwillingness to start him and let him “develop” until he learns how to play NBA-level basketball.
     
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    We've seen him start, and it didn't look good. I think he's better off developing off the bench. It's not like he's being buried on the bench, he's getting a chance every game to get better.
     
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    That's my opinion, too. I don't agree with the idea that players develop more quickly by giving them starting positions before they're ready for that level of competition. By every statistical measurement we've seen so far, Scoot's game isn't ready yet.
     
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    Of all the skills that a point guard needs to possess, making a layup seems like the easiest deficiency to improve over time. Not worried in the slightest about that.

    If he was slow, weak, had poor court vision, horrendous ball-handling skills, or a shot like Evan Turner, then I would be worried. But finishing in traffic at the rim is not a skill that is hard to improve. He just has not adjusted to the next level of competition.....yet.

    This might not be completely comparable as Clyde was not a point guard, but I remember how much Clyde improved after his first year in the NBA. It was night and day. And he was 21 when he was drafted and had played 96 games in college.
     
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    Terry Porter was a small forward in college.
     
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    "2 players have been selected out of Wisconsin-Stevens Point in NBA draft history, 1 in the first round (0 during the last 10 years), 0 in the second round and 0 among the top 3 picks. The last time a player out of Wisconsin-Stevens Point was selected in the NBA draft was in 1987."

    In case you were wondering, the other guy who was drafted out of WSP was Tim Naegeli. Picked 23rd in the 6th round (remember those?) by Boston and never played in the NBA.
     
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    I coulda been a 6th round draft pick!
     
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    Up until 1985 there were at least 8 rounds in the draft... so maybe you were a 6th round pick and no one ever told you.
     
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    I worry SIGNIFICANTLY less about layups than I do about three point shooting.
     
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    You left the “r” out.
     
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    Not sure Scoot will be as good as Ant. Totally different players, but who knows. I DO know Ant go to battle with Dame and CJ for YEARS.
    A lot like Jermaine O’Neal going up against Sabonis/Sheed/B-Grant day in and day out.
     
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    We’re you analyzing CJ and Ant the same way day to day?
     
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    Remember that game in Ant's rookie year when he was basically our only PG and we were tanking, and he led a huge comeback to beat Sacramento? He could do that because he was already a polished scorer. Scoot isn't. Scoot looks like he grew up in a country that didn't play basketball and has only recently discovered it because somebody told him he has athletic gifts. Scoot's handle just looks much more shaky than Ant's ever was. (Ant and Shaedon were pretty similar - both had several polished skills, they just didn't know the NBA team game. Nobody should ever use the word "polished" about any aspect of Scoot's game.)

    Again I'm reminded of Jalen Suggs. Like Scoot he looks more of a football player, and if he contributes it's more because of hustle and determination than refined game.
     

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