<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Practices Will Be Shorter with Edwards:Chiefs put the mini back in minicampKansas City StarBy ADAM TEICHERMay 11, 2006One of the things the Chiefs lost with the departure of coach Dick Vermeil was the grueling 2 1/2 -hour practice session that often left players grumbling.One of the things they gained by hiring Herm Edwards as his replacement is the sub-two-hour practice that promises to leave them more refreshed.Edwards unveils the Chiefs' new practice regimen in a three-day, partial-squad minicamp that begins today at their Truman Sports Complex facility. The Chiefs will practice five times, all closed to the public, and none of the workouts is scheduled to last more than 1 1/2 hours.The Chiefs expected about 65 players this weekend, including all draft picks and undrafted rookie free agents, about 25 invited veteran players, and some roster hopefuls who will participate on a trial basis.They continue with practice sessions Tuesday and Wednesday and then hold a full-squad minicamp next weekend.It all starts this morning. Edwards' first order of business will be to establish the order of business.'It's about trying to set a different mind-set on how we're going to do things,' he said. 'When you start a program, when you're starting with a new head coach and some new coaches on your staff, the players have to realize how you're going to do things. That's the thing about being a pro. Obviously you have to be willing to adapt to different philosophies.'This is really the training ground of how we're going to operate.'Vermeil's practices eased somewhat during his five seasons with the Chiefs, but they were always generally lengthy. Time between plays was often extended so coaches could make their teaching points.Edwards promised a routine that gets the players on and off the practice field in shorter time.'It's going to be more of a speed, up-tempo type of practice,' he said. 'Maybe we won't do as many (plays). I believe in volume but not overkill. I just believe you have to create an atmosphere in practice where you put pressure on the players. They have to deal with that because on Sundays, that's what happens. You have 35 seconds and you've got to play the next play.'I believe in efficiency. You have to prepare that way. You have to get to the meat of what you want to do. I don't believe in just going out there and practicing so you can say you were out there for three hours. You have to go out there with a plan. Us as coaches, we could always use another 10 minutes or another five plays, but I want to make sure we're doing the things we're asking these guys to do in a game.'This minicamp gives the Chiefs their first on-field look at their rookies, including their top draft, Penn State defensive end Tamba Hali. Quarterbacks Casey Printers and Brodie Croyle will begin their duel to become the eventual successor to Trent Green.But it's only a start.'One thing we're going to stress this weekend is not to overload all of these guys with information,' Edwards said. 'We're going to be real basic early. They can only line up offensively in two formations, (regular) and slot. I won't even let them run motion the first practice. It's going to be real simple. I want to see these guys compete and use their talents when they go against each other.'</div>I feel sorry for you guys. You dont know what your getting yourselves into.
Is this just minicamp? Or is it all of the practices? Dude. The 2 1/2 hour practice is the slacker way to go! What is this??? It might keep them refreshed, but the more practice you get in, the better. The more practice, the easier it is on gameday. Come on Herm, what the hell? Maybe it will be a good thing for veterans, but not for rookies.I'm not sure if this will play out the way Herm wants it to. This is my first big question for Herm. Venom, should I be worried?
Losing Dick AND Al was a huge blow. Getting Herm was also a huge blow. This isn't going to work out IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrowhead? @ May 16 2006, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Is this just minicamp? Or is it all of the practices? Dude. The 2 1/2 hour practice is the slacker way to go! What is this??? It might keep them refreshed, but the more practice you get in, the better. The more practice, the easier it is on gameday. Come on Herm, what the hell? Maybe it will be a good thing for veterans, but not for rookies.I'm not sure if this will play out the way Herm wants it to. This is my first big question for Herm. Venom, should I be worried? </div>Lets put it this way.Dick Vermeil was considered one of the biggest players coaches and softest coaches in the league.Herm Edwards make Dick Vermeil look like Tom Coughlin.Under Herm Edwards you will see mismanagement of players, horrible in game decision making (which will probably cost you an average of 2 games a year), and an overall cluelessness when it comes to X's and O's, but when it comes to making the media happy or motivating players hes the second coming of Jesus H. Christ. Assumeing you have coordinators with a strong background in the X's and O's of football, it will help to minimize the damage Herm will cause though. My predictions: 2006: A 12-4 talented roster, after he brings in Ty Law in right before the season, goes 10-6, they then exit the second round of the playoffs due to his ineptness to develop an effective gameplan. However, they get past the first round on sheer motivation alone (That, and a favorable matchup against some second tiered team like Jacksonville).2007: After being hyped up all offseason, Kansas City collapses the next season going 6-10. In reality, the problem here is that his Quarterback and Offensive Line are way too old and ineffective at this point in time, but Herm keeps sending them out there while underusing quality backups like Brodie Croyle, and neglecting to realize that maybe he should have drafted/signed an offensive lineman who would be capable of stepping in should his offensive line get a case of old age. Herm, however, scapegoats both his coordinators and fires them to buy himself more time of stealing top head coaching money.2008: Due to an injury to his well-beyond-his-prime Quarterback in Trent Green, he finally has no other choice but to start Brodie Croyle who goes on and posts very good numbers as a starting quarterback. Herm's temporary fixes on the offensive line by bringing in pricey veterans hold up decently, but they are clearly not the players they once were that Herm had brought in. The Chiefs post another 10-6 season, but lose in the playoffs due to a mismatch in the coaching position.2009: The defense reaches old age, the offensive line hits old age (again), the Chiefs cannot stop anybody, Brodie Croyle leads the league in times sacked, and the Chiefs go 4-12. Herm tryes to scapegoat his new Coordinators. However the problem isnt the system, its the head coach's for not getting the Coordinators something to work with. Kansas City finally comes to their senses and tosses Herm into the trash can, after he managed to steal about 16 million from the KC franchise for pretending to be a good head coach.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Johnny White Guy @ May 17 2006, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You basically just told him that his team is screwed, and you had a fun time doing it </div>No, Im telling him exactly what will happen, and exactly what did happen the last 5 years in New York.
I know what you told him and I know why but it was just funny to read what you said, that's all. I agree that they are done for with Herm.
I'm gonna stay optimistic though. Until Herm proves that he can't manage a game and destroys a very talented team. I think 10-6 sounds about right, but I don't think the coaching situation will hurt us as much as you guys think it will. I think a change in the coaching department might actually help us.I just hope he doesn't try and ignore the offensive side of the football like he did in New York. We are gonna have to either develop Brodie Croyle or draft a QB in the first round over the next 2-3 years. Hopefully by then our defense will be fortified and we will keep trying to bring in some younger talent on both sides of the ball after our "old studs" leave. Just don't screw this season up Herm, we have a good shot.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrowhead™ @ May 17 2006, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm gonna stay optimistic though. Until Herm proves that he can't manage a game and destroys a very talented team. I think 10-6 sounds about right, but I don't think the coaching situation will hurt us as much as you guys think it will. I think a change in the coaching department might actually help us.I just hope he doesn't try and ignore the offensive side of the football like he did in New York. We are gonna have to either develop Brodie Croyle or draft a QB in the first round over the next 2-3 years. Hopefully by then our defense will be fortified and we will keep trying to bring in some younger talent on both sides of the ball after our "old studs" leave. Just don't screw this season up Herm, we have a good shot.</div>He wont ignore the offense.He will just A) Turn Larry Johnson into his workhorse, probably giving him the ball up to 400 times in a season and wearing him out in the process. Then get into a arguement with whoever your runningbacks coach is on the sidelines when they hint that maybe they should give Priest Holmes a few plays. B.) Bring in a combination of overpaid, over-the-hill veterans and rookies (3rd round and below) which will end up turning your offensive line from one of the best to a very mediocre one.C) Play Trent Green for as long as he can possibly get away with it, completely ignoreing that Brodie Croyle is there on Sundays. Keep in mind it took Pennington 5 weeks into his 3rd year to jump into the starting lineup, even though there was NO NEED for him to wait that long.D) Make some very questionable draft picks such as a fullback in the Third Round and a kicker in the Second Round.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrowhead? @ May 17 2006, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nugent was a good pick in my opinion...lol</div>Good player, Good kicker, But we could have either drafted a Kicker later or signed a bunch of UDFA's and one or two of them would have panned out.
So are you implying that Herm gets drunk on draft day and helplessly wastes good draft picks on mediocre players?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrowhead? @ May 17 2006, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So are you implying that Herm gets drunk on draft day and helplessly wastes good draft picks on mediocre players?</div>No, but with some of his coaching decisions like Running on 3rd and 9 for the 6th time in the Game settleing for a 50 yard field goal make me wonder if he is drunk on game day.
