55.5% 75.6% one is not like the other. still not a fan after that max contract comment though. Humility is key. If he feels he is a max player then show it on the court. Not state it in interviews.
I’d much rather watch him play like last night than listen to him talk about how he can play like last night. I’m old school livin in a show me world when everyone else just talks shit. lol.
You're reaching for stupid excuses. Find a center that gets to the line as little as Ayton. Centers naturally draw fouls as part of the aspect of scoring inside. Ayton is averaging 1.6 per 36. Kevin Duckworth averaged 4.5 per 36 for his career, and shot about the same FT% and took about the same number of FG attempts. Ayton is soft.
yeah, his statement made more f a mark than his one good game to me. Be consistent and I’ll be fine with max contract statements like he made.
That plus Joel had no jump shot. So all of his shots were right under the basket. Jump shooters get fouled less in general. Same with centers that have a decent jump hook. It seems to me that we often label skilled centers as being soft. I don't think Ayton is soft.
Yeah, jump shooting vs taking shots inside is a sign of being soft. That is a problem because those inside shots are the highest %, and also draw fouls. Go look up what other centers average per 36 so you can get some bearing on how bad 1.5 FTA is. Whomever floats your boat. Nurk averaged 5.3 per 36. Ayton is only taking a 28% of his shots from 0-3, which is really low for a center.
I don’t disagree Ayton plays (emphasis on PLAYS)soft at all. Just think using Joel Pryzbilla as your example might not hold much weight.
Why should a guy who is supposed to be an offensive contributer get less FTA than someone who gets excluded from the offense? Not sure why you guys are getting hung up on Joel, it doesn't matter. Joel also got LESS FTA than most other centers. So it was meant to show how bad Ayton is in that respect. If you look at other centers, it makes Ayton look even worse.
Like I already said. Joel got hacked during close games because he couldn’t make free throws. That totally throws your stats out the window. I agree Ayton could play more physical and draw more fouls. He’s a jump shooting center that works more towards a mid range game. He also seems to shoot that fall away hook shot quite a bit. Those shots don’t draw fouls.
Just pick another offensively inept starting center who didn't get routinely fouled for possession, and reset the completely valid point.
Statement: Car A is very slow, it has a maximum speed of only 40MPH. As a comparison, Car B, which is also much slower than normal, could reach a top speed of 60 MPH Retort: Car B is faster because it weighs less. That doesn't change the fact that car A is slow (as is car B for that matter). Using a normal car that can get over 100 just makes Car A look even worse. Not to belabor this point, it's just a logic fail. Also, I don't think teams really played hack a joel that much, but to what extend they did, he still didn't get to the line much.
We already know you don't like him and have let it impair your objectivity when watching him play. Unlike you, I don't have to marry myself to an all-or-nothing position. Ayton's not perfect, not even the greatest. That he doesn't get to the line more is frustrating, and I hope it's something he improves because he's a solid FT shooter. I'm simply stating, though, that he's a lot better than you and others who just need guys on the team to hate on are willing to realize. A number of the things I mentioned that are good about him aren't statistically easy to measure. What he can do, does and tries to do makes it easier to put together a winning team. I've sufficiently illustrated that. After watching this team be forced to defend around our bigs (including Przybilla) for years. You can do a lot more because he can pester guards 40 feet from the basket if he's caught in a mismatch and his threat to consistently make shots from 15-17 feet forces other defenses to play us in ways that will open things up when we have better players to be able to take advantage of it. Now, about the stats you posted, stats compiled in half a year playing on a team that's trying to lose aren't really an adequate reflection of metrics, either. If we go to two years where this is a definite trend rather than a blip, then I'll worry about it. Of course, I'm not looking at a scapegoat. But keep dying on this hill.
Huh? I'm going to call you Simone Biles from now on because the mental gymnastics you are going through to try not to get drug for a weird hate would get you a gold medal if you didn't set such a high degree of difficulty.
Even with his numbers down this year playing on a team with six rookies and assorted other spare parts, Ayton is just under a career 60% shooter from the field and averages a double-double. Yet his admittedly-frustrating inability to get to the line more -- where he shoots 75% for his career -- is being cited as a reason he's not a good player. I swear one couldn't make this up. It's a prime example of not seeing the forest for the trees.
I, for one, don’t miss the lumbering big men getting hacked and shooting a Shaq ton of free throws to win 86-82! The game has changed and the role of center has changed. On the radio Antonio Harvey said his good friend coached Ayton before the NBA and that the kid was a healthy Greg Oden talent. I’m starting to see that and if he keeps it up he’ll be the best big we’ve had since Oden
Yeah that's pretty much all I have said. It wasn't rocket science. Totally agree Ayton could be playing tougher around the rim. His point is indeed valid.
