Exclusive NBA Trade Deadline Thread 2024

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by kjironman1, Jan 10, 2024.

  1. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    It’s obvious to me who the odd man out is.
     
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    Ive seen this story many times before.

    And if the market wasn't good enough now, I dont see it being any better this offseason, and the Blazers seemed to want to keep him, so I don't think it's all that preemptive.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Who?
     
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    Simons.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    The 24 year old improving guard is a more obvious trade candidate than the 31 year old with one-year left on his deal next season? In a rebuild?

    I disagree.
     
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    I read your post as one needs to go between Scoot, Simons and Sharpe.
     
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    Breathe, Torey. Breathe.

    First, that hasn't happened yet. Second, even if that happens, we don't know how they'd balance it out, if Shaedon might play some 3 in a small lineup or what. Third, Shaedon's not part of the equation at the current time.
     
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    I tend to see Washington's skills closer to Steve Clifford and Hollinger.

    I think Luka will make him better offensively and maybe his poor defense was a product of him being with a team that wasn't interested in winning and therefore he wasn't interested in giving it his all. But even if that were the case, the situation in Portland would've been more similar to Charlotte than to Dallas.

    I'm not trying to make it sound like he's garbage, but I wouldn't have wanted to give up 2 rotation players and a 1st round pick for him. Thybulle and a couple 2nds, maybe.
     
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    Getting worked up about things that haven't and very well may never happen is bad for my blood pressure!
     
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    PCmor7 Generational Poster

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    Someone I know pretty well posted something like this a couple of days ago. Once you get to a certain point, having a glut of draft picks depreciates their value because the ones coming along later have to beat out the ones that already are there trying to prove they can be part of a winning rotation. You don't have enough roster spots and even fewer opportunities for meaningful playing time.

    The value in the picks then just becomes as trade chips, so you're relying on a partner that's willing to give you something vital for them.

    On top of that, if you've drafted well, at least some of those draft picks are going to drop further and further down the round, which diminishes their value both to you and to potential trade partners.
     
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    they are well over the 2nd apron so the new CBA constraints had them in a straight-jacket. Couldn't happen to a more deserving franchise
     
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    Didn't even have enough to acquire more Toradol, from what I heard.
     
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    really need to know what Portland was asking for and what was offered to make that judgement. Cronin could have been asking for two 1st's
     
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    add to that we already have 10 players on the team in their rookie or sophomore seasons.
     
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    Lmao!!! Post of the day!!!
     
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    And I would applaud him if so.
    Hold firm Joe. Brogdon is worth two middle firsts or a lotto first to me. Nothing less, or his value is better off staying on this team.
    Here is something not mentioned from what I’ve read.
    If he sold low on Brogdon as some seem to have wanted, doesn’t that somewhat hamstring future negotiations? Other GMs thinking the can fleece him? I’m in Joes camp on this. He is playing hardball and we need that. He may be taking a chance, but I’d rather have a GM taking a chance rather than just selling low, showing the other teams they can rake him.
    People who complain he hasn’t done well so far would have continued to say so for a middle first or couple seconds.
    In my view, good job Joe!

    He is playing the long game when everyone thinks it’s shortsided and want an instant drive thru decision.
     
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    Scoot was supposed to be NBA ready coming out of the draft, So you would think his development should have been able to move along a bit quicker.
     
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    LOL, geeeezuzzz...Olshey isn't around to trade two "middle first's" for Brogdon. He's the only GM that might do it
     
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    That’s a whole other bag of worms. We don’t really know who is pulling the strings here. Does Joe have free rein or is someone restricting his options?
    Based on my fan view of the penny pinching? I see above him as not allowing him to make a move on Brogdon unless it was stellar because they want to maximize the value of him. Above him I think are scared shittless of having the end result of the Dame trade look bad.
    Fricken Vulcans…
     
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    With potentially two more in the top 10 later this year and two others between 30 and 40. And a high probability of another lottery pick in 2025 not because there isn't talent on the team but because the talent is so young.

    We're not talking just a lot of picks. We're talking a lot of quality picks. The Blazers are in a position to get guys they want because there's not going to be a lot ahead of them to steal those players.

    And the Blazers probably aren't going to be taking a PG or 2G with those picks, plus the C they have is young. They can be largely focused on filling a couple of positions of need.
     
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