2007 Mock Draft

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  1. chang

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 22 2006, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We have a good amount of winnable games with like Houston, Tennessee, Green Bay, Oakland, and Miami twice (Yeah, I said it. I dont think they will be close to as good as people think.) Obviously we wont win all of those, but I think 6-7 wins is more likely then the 3 you laid out.</div>Most definately except for the Miami part.Miami with (if they have a healthy) Daunte Culpepper gives them a lethal offense with McMichael and Chambers. Losing Ricky Williams isn't the end of the world since they have Ronnie Brown, who's 1 year better and more conditioned. While the defense isn't as strong as it used to be, Culppeper should put more points on the board than Fiedler and crew did, giving the defense a little bit of room to work with.Houston is obviously winnable. Tennessee is kind of an unknown with Volek (who did decent when McNair was injured) and an improved D (added a few good players like Thornton) but still a very beatable team. Green Bay could make a run at the playoffs with Ahman Green, Favre, and Driver healthy and an even stronger D (improved their run D with Hawk and Hodge; pass D was good even without Charles Woodson), but they will be beatable if those things don't fall into place. Oakland is definately winnable unless Brooks has a turnaround year.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ May 22 2006, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 22 2006, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We have a good amount of winnable games with like Houston, Tennessee, Green Bay, Oakland, and Miami twice (Yeah, I said it. I dont think they will be close to as good as people think.) Obviously we wont win all of those, but I think 6-7 wins is more likely then the 3 you laid out.</div>Most definately except for the Miami part.Miami with (if they have a healthy) Daunte Culpepper gives them a lethal offense with McMichael and Chambers. Losing Ricky Williams isn't the end of the world since they have Ronnie Brown, who's 1 year better and more conditioned. While the defense isn't as strong as it used to be, Culppeper should put more points on the board than Fiedler and crew did, giving the defense a little bit of room to work with.Houston is obviously winnable. Tennessee is kind of an unknown with Volek (who did decent when McNair was injured) and an improved D (added a few good players like Thornton) but still a very beatable team. Green Bay could make a run at the playoffs with Ahman Green, Favre, and Driver healthy and an even stronger D (improved their run D with Hawk and Hodge; pass D was good even without Charles Woodson), but they will be beatable if those things don't fall into place. Oakland is definately winnable unless Brooks has a turnaround year.</div>New York repeatably beats Miami in football (Even in last season when we were 4-12 and they were 9-7 we managed to split the season series, and came very close to beating them with Bollinger and crew). And im personally not very impressed with Either Culpepper (Coming off a shredded knee, his worst career season, and most people dont think he can play without a playmaker like Moss, and dont say Chambers because Chris Chambers cant sniff Minnesota Moss's jockstrap yet), or Harrington (Bust). Not to mention they are probably setting a record of most players with a troubled past on a roster at the same time. lol
     
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    Ok, well, getting away from teh bashing of Gametime, I think you will ALL be surprised by Lynch. IMO, he will win Heisman if CAL plays well this year. All of a sudden, all the experts and college analysts are calling Joe Ayoob one of the top QB's in the country because Tedford focused his attention on him all off-season and that jazz. If CAL can play well this year, I think Lynch has a shot at a top 2 pick, because he is freakin amazing. If you have ever seen him play, which I'm sure a lot of you havent, you need to watch him. Its so fun, its like watching Barry Sanders all over again. The guy is freakin amazing. Anyway, unfortuntely, I think you are overrating the 49ers. I mean, history is on their side with going to the playoffs this year, and if Smith can be good this year with the good Davis, and our front 7 can finally support or secondary, we have a shot, but, knowing the 9ers, everyone is going to get hurt, and we will fall apart. In a way, I hope they dont do so well so WE can get Marshawn Lynch, cause the guy is a baller, and him + Frank Gore = domination in the backfield. Even though Calvin Johnson is a more logical choice for them, I'd rather see them get Lynch.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 22 2006, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GaMeTiMe @ May 22 2006, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>First off, you cant say someone is going to be healthy for the year. NO ONE in the league is "healthy" first of all, and it's even harder to say about someone who's missed significant time for most of his career. And while it may not seem like it now, I think that's a legitimately tough schedule for them. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>at TennesseeNew Englandat BuffaloIndianapolisat JacksonvilleMiamiDetroitat Clevelandbyeat New EnglandChicagoHoustonat Green BayBuffaloat Minnesotaat MiamiOakland</div>I'd give them wins in those three games..Teams like Green Bay and Houston they may come close to, but I seriously think they're both better than the Jets. I think you guys had a great off-season, but I dont see any acquisitions that will make an immediate impact. Especially under a new regime where everyone's learning a new playbook. I'm not saying they'll win ONLY three games, but I think they've got solid chances at 3 wins at the very least this year..And they'll fight for any more that they may wind up with.</div>LMAO. OK. If we only win those games, I'll have all of my pubic hair waxed off.</div>LOL r u serious? I'll even be surprised if Buffalo can managed to win at least 3 games [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 22 2006, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LMAO. OK. If we only win those games, I'll have all of my pubic hair waxed off.</div>Are you kidding me?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><u>I'm not saying they'll win ONLY three games, but I think they've got solid chances at 3 wins at the very least this year..And they'll fight for any more that they may wind up with.</u></div>I didnt say Houston, Tennessee, Miami and Oakland weren't winnable. I said I'd give them at LEAST three wins right off the bat.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ST34LTH @ May 22 2006, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry for the 'attacks' but we already replaced Wiley. Wiley isn't even a starter, while Spicer has been putting up nice numbers along with ever Rob Meier. We also have good youth with Bobby McCray. He has really shown me his potential.</div>Spicer is getting older like I mentioned. Meier and McCray are solid but are they really every down players?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Hawkins sounds pretty talented to me:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Hawkins found professionals scouts interested in him after a senior season that broke records and earned many post-season accolades. Hawkins led all of Division I-AA in tackles for loss (26.5) and forced fumbles (7) and ranked second in sacks (17). He finished runner-up for the Buck Buchanan award, given to I-AA's top defensive player, won Gateway Football Conference defensive player of the year and earned defensive MVP honors of the Hula Bowl stemming from two sacks and a game-sealing forced fumble.</div></div>Well yeah, all prospect reports are going to have the guys accomplishments..But it doesnt give him a future in the NFL.
     
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    Chris Chambers had 1100 yards 11 TDs in 82 receptions with Marty Booker across from him and Gus Frerotte throwing to him.Randy Moss had 1000 yards 8 TDs in 60 receptions with Jerry Porter across him and Kerry Collins throwing to him.Not saying Chambers is better but he's vastly underrated when he is a damn good receiver.
     
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    [quote name='GaMeTiMe' post='49578' date='May 23 2006, 02:39 PM'][quote name='ST34LTH' post='49500' date='May 22 2006, 05:47 PM']Sorry for the 'attacks' but we already replaced Wiley. Wiley isn't even a starter, while Spicer has been putting up nice numbers along with ever Rob Meier. We also have good youth with Bobby McCray. He has really shown me his potential.[/quote]Spicer is getting older like I mentioned. Meier and McCray are solid but are they really every down players?
    Well yeah, all prospect reports are going to have the guys accomplishments..But it doesnt give him a future in the NFL.[/quote]I dunno, we haven't seen yet, but if they don't? They switch off like they have been doing??
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ May 23 2006, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chris Chambers had 1100 yards 11 TDs in 82 receptions with Marty Booker across from him and Gus Frerotte throwing to him.Randy Moss had 1000 yards 8 TDs in 60 receptions with Jerry Porter across him and Kerry Collins throwing to him.Not saying Chambers is better but he's vastly underrated when he is a damn good receiver.</div>Randy Moss was also either injured or playing hurt for 3/4 of the year. Randy Moss is capable of 1400-1500 yds and 15 Touchdowns in a good season and constantly comanding a double team. While Chambers is a good player and is a bit underrated, he only has 1 1000 yard recieving year (Compared to Randy Moss's 7), 2 Seasons with 10 or more Touchdowns (Compared to Randy Moss's 6) and is just not on the level that Randy Moss is.
     
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    Well again, we have to wait and see..All our opinions are going to differ on all of this until the season. I just think the Jags can use a stud every down starter at DE, and if they were to pick at that spot (which I guess is our main disagreement) I can't see them passing on one. They need a WR, but I dont think one in the first round would fit with their current corps.
     
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    I like what you got so far Gametime, and Calvin Johnson to 49ers? Cha-Ching [​IMG]
     
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    I love PP. But you're saying the Rams didn't get better this offseason? You crazy, boy. Oh well, everyone has their own opinions.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ May 26 2006, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I love PP. But you're saying the Rams didn't get better this offseason? You crazy, boy. Oh well, everyone has their own opinions.</div>Opinions are like Assholes, Everyone has them and they all stink. [​IMG] But seriously.....he had to put someone in the top 10 and no matter who he put there people would complain, so give the guy a break. Let the teams do the positioning on the field and focus more on the player taken there since most of his picks were BPA and projecting needs anyway.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 26 2006, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ May 26 2006, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I love PP. But you're saying the Rams didn't get better this offseason? You crazy, boy. Oh well, everyone has their own opinions.</div>Opinions are like Assholes, Everyone has them and they all stink. [​IMG] But seriously.....he had to put someone in the top 10 and no matter who he put there people would complain, so give the guy a break. Let the teams do the positioning on the field and focus more on the player taken there since most of his picks were BPA and projecting needs anyway.</div>Haha, yeah. That's fine he has STL #9. I'll just make a mock and have Philly #1 and say they went 0-16, for my revenge. I still think St. Louis will win the Super Bowl.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ May 26 2006, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Haha, yeah. That's fine he has STL #9. I'll just make a mock and have Philly #1 and say they went 0-16, for my revenge. I still think St. Louis will win the Super Bowl.</div> [​IMG] [​IMG] .. St. Louis in the Super Bowl? St. Louis WINNING the Super Bowl?Again, at this point of the year EVERYONE looks like they've gotten better. EVERYONE. Everyone has seemingly filled their holes from last season through the draft and free agency. However you dont know what players are going to get hurt, what players are going to fade away, or in St. Louis' case, what players are going to fail to adjust to a new system. I seriously think Gus Frerotte will be pushing Bulger hard all season, and I don't mean that in a good type of competitive way. I mean QB controversy.And the defense is still below average. The corners improved, but is Fakhir Brown anything more than decent and is Tye Hill too small to cover NFL receivers? Past them there isn't much..Butler is ok and should start I'm guessing.The safeties..I truthfully don't know who your free safety is..And Chavous is ok but declining and this may be where the road ends for him production wise. La'Roi Glover is basically already done but he may draw blockers for Little, Kennedy and (I think) Hargrove so that may be more than enough. Who's going to start at SAM? Chillar?
     
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    I hope Baltimore can snag a RB like Peterson. That would be so friggin sweet. I don't want the organization paying Jamal $10 million next season unless he has a 2500 yard season.
     
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    If the Bills pick at no.1 they'll find away to mess it up and who can blame them Marv Levy and Ralph ''Waaaaaaaaaaaaa! I don't understand the CBA and I think I just shat myself somebody please clean me, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!'' are pretty much senile.
     
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    I call Ted Ginn Jr. for Minnesota!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GaMeTiMe @ May 23 2006, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well again, we have to wait and see..All our opinions are going to differ on all of this until the season. I just think the Jags can use a stud every down starter at DE, and if they were to pick at that spot (which I guess is our main disagreement) I can't see them passing on one. They need a WR, but I dont think one in the first round would fit with their current corps.</div>I've thought about plugging in a DE for my 2007 Mock in the 1st Round, but I think they have big needs and have picked up to potential steals in Hawkins and Wyche. Wyche was a huge steal in my opinon. I watched a lot of him (being a NFL Draft Expert and Syracuse fan) and he is has a lot of tools to work with. Very good size and frame, needs to add some bulk though, and great speed at 4.65. He is a great DE who takes some plays off at times but still made a lot of plays w/o even trying. He is very average against the run and needs to improve there. But, he is excellent at getting to the QB. He also faced a lot of double teams. I counted him as having a quarter more (in other words for every 3 double teams Wimbley faced, Wyche faced 4) than 1st Rounder Kamerion Wimbley in the Florida State-Syracuse game. I'm not saying he is for certain a steal, but I think he will be and they have bigger needs at TE like a Greg Olsen and C like Kyle Young (OT as well). Also, no way the Jags wind up in the top 10 next year lol. They have a great team and are ready for a run. Right now, these are the only teams I feel have a chance at the Super Bowl (from the AFC):New England PatriotsMiami DolphinsPittsburgh SteelersCincinnati Bengals (If Carson can return at the level he was at last year)Indianapolis ColtsJacksonville JaguarsandDenver BroncosThe Chiefs and Chargers are fringe on that list, but the Chiefs defense needs to improve and Phillip Rivers will need a big season.
     
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    The Jags losing Jimmy Williams and Akin Ayodele is going to hurt them bad..Especially with no one ready to step up and take over for them. People havent talked about Williams even after he retires, and I guess the only thing that's going to give him the credit he deserves is the Jags suffering without him. Matt Jones isnt ready to be a #1 receiver and I dont know if he ever will be, although they're showing him Randy Moss tape lately because he does have the athleticism to be a great receiver..I just dont know if he has the tools to be anything more than a playmaker #2 type.
     

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