OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. beast blazer

    beast blazer Well-Known Member

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    No, they determined that at least some of those studied died from the vaccine. The forensic evidence, case studies, reports to systems like VAERS, data from the population at large, over several countries, it all lines up.

    You want to stay stuck in ignorance, because the TV told you your tribe supports the vaccine and the enemy tribe is against it, but that's a produce of the psychological warfare that's been waged on you.
     
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    beast blazer Well-Known Member

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    Well, that's a different debate. But this is a baby at 12 weeks.
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  3. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I ask for credible. Those links are by one person with no medical training and lots of statements like, " Now I personally suspect that over 100,000 Americans have been killed by the experimental vaccines. Others I know think the number may be as large as a quarter of a million."
     
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    The researchers examined autopsy data from 35 people who died unexpectedly within 20 days of COVID-19 vaccination and concluded that for two of them, vaccine-induced myocarditis represented the “likely” cause of death, while for three others, the condition was a “possible” cause of death.

    Some experts, however, have questioned those conclusions — and even if valid, they don’t mean the risks of vaccination outweigh the benefits. On the contrary, numerous studies have shown the vaccines provide good protection against severe COVID-19 and death — and only rarely cause serious side effects. Studies have also shown that in most age groups myocarditis following vaccination is less frequent than after COVID-19, and clinically, most vaccine-related myocarditis cases are mild. This context was missing when many people shared the autopsy study online.

    “Autopsies found that 5/35 people who died suddenly within 20 days of COVID-19 vaccination had myocarditis as a likely/possible cause of death,” Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo tweeted on Dec. 2, linking to the study.

    “These deaths aren’t captured by other studies because these patients never made it to the hospital…mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are far less safe than any vaccines widely used. When does sanity return to science? Why do scientists breathlessly defend this technology?” he added, in a tweet that got over 18,000 likes.

    Ladapo also misleadingly said that the autopsy study was “consistent with Florida’s analysis,” referring to a discredited analysis performed by the Florida Department of Health. It purportedly found an increased risk of cardiac-related death following vaccination in younger adult males and was the basis for the state to no longer recommend the mRNA vaccines for that group in October. As we wrote at the time, experts in statistics said the analysis was flawed.

    Last week, in a roundtable hosted by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, Ladapo announced a plan to study myocarditis in people who died within a few weeks of COVID-19 vaccination using autopsy results, inspired by the German report. (For more information, see SciCheck’s “DeSantis’ Dubious COVID-19 Vaccine Claims.”)

    Ladapo’s tweet was followed by multiple articles, videos and social media posts suggesting the German autopsy report’s findings were alarming. The report was embraced by those who have been advancing the false narrative that the vaccines are causing widespread deaths. Its publication came just a few days after the release of “Died Suddenly,” a viral video that baselessly claimed the vaccines were causing people to suddenly drop dead in a plot to depopulate the world.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    It was a study of 25 people that they expanded to 35 people.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    That's irrelevant
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    It’s cavemen like THIS that blows my mind that you agree with him on guns…….You seem like a dialed dude, yet you two could someday share a bunker with tinfoil on your heads.
     
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    Maybe. But only if the tinfoil was left over hotdog wrapping. A hotdog with mayo, obviously...

    Seriously though, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Beast being mostly right on gun rights means they are a real person rather than a paid bot or whatever.
     
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    It's not to me.
     
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    This is a good learning opportunity for you, to learn how the "fact check" mind games work. The evidence needs to be exampled from multiple angles, and for any one bit of evidence that is focused on, the "fact checkers" who themselves are NOT experts in whatever they are talking on, will say, "Yes, but what about x,y,z", and then play the same diversionary games for x,y and z.

    Sure, we've had more reports of death and adverse reactions for covid-19 VAERS than for all other vaccines in the combined 30 year history, but VAERS is only a reporting system, it doesn't prove causation.
    Sure, we know the vaccine can cause death in some people, but it doesn't prove this occurs in significant numbers.
    Sure excess death went up in many countries after vaccine rollout, but we can't establish this was caused by the vaccine.
    Sure, we've now found many alarming mechanisms of potential harm from the vaccine, but there is no evidence it's doing harms.

    It's gaslighting. Wisen up.
     
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    I can inject all kinds of shit into you that will illicit an immune response. That doesn't mean you're being granted immunity.
     
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    Quick survey: how many in here are a fan of the new law they passed in France, where someone can be imprisoned for questioning the safety of any therapeutic the government is promoting?

    And if you are in favor, would you like to see that done here in the US?
     
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    Unless you can get pregnant it's none of your concern.

    The 14th Amendment of the US Constitution says we can't force somebody to go through a life altering event like pregnancy. And the 5th Amendment says that we don't even have the right to know if she is or was ever pregnant.

    You see, I consistently support constitutional rights.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    The Founding Fathers will roll over in their graves if they talk to Moses up there. He has 2 new Commandments, "Thou shalt not put anyone through a life-altering event" and "Thou shalt not know whether he or she is pregnant."

    Stats help. At its peak, 4000 Americans per day died from coronavirus. Now it's only 200 per day = 6000 Americans last month. Nuttn' to worry about, burn your mask and spin the big casino wheel.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Translation: I'll put on my mask next time I go to a big store. I recently got my coronavirus and flu shots.
     
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    Why would anybody support something like that? First and foremost, it would be unconstitutional as hell.
     
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    Covid proved how many in the US would have made good little Nazis. If one is in favor of putting someone in prison for refusing the vaccine, there's a good chance they'd be in favor of it for saying it's dangerous.
     
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    Nonsense. That's like saying you shouldn't be against slavery unless you're black.

    The 14th Amendment argument was correctly viewed as baseless. Our lives are protected, so the question is when does that protection start.
     
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    Who advocated for putting people in prison for refusing the vaccine?
     

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