Religion Mid East Religious War

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  1. Road Ratt

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    It has been reported that Israel has monetarily supported Hamas.

    Israel needs Hamas as a scapegoat for Israel's apartheid on the Palestinian people. Plain and simple.
     
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    This situation is unique... however, genocide doesn't generally "work". It "worked" here in the US. It "worked" in Australia.

    Nation building worked in Japan, Germany, etc. Gaza is already decimated like Japan and Germany were (it didn't have very far to fall). What is needed is improved living conditions and care. The rest will come in time. It will come faster if Israel can find the strength to be gracious and actually help the people of Gaza.
     
  3. SlyPokerDog

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    The personal insults have to stop.

    Please.

    Also, the FUs have to stop unless it's a question and you want to have sex with someone but that really should be done via PM.
     
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    So, the FU by PM is just a suggestion? Or is that like, a rule? Just want to be clear...
     
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    Are you using it as an insult or an offer?

    FU! Means you're really bad at sex and you want to punish someone by having sex with you.

    FU? Means... hey, interested in some sexy time with me?
     
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    Shit. This is too complex for me...
     
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    Wut.
     
  8. Hoopguru

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    Nope...You aligning me with Hitler is why I told you to fuck off!
    My point was about Egypt was concerned about ruthless Hamas religious terrorist polluting their country, they are building a fucking wall.
     
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    Israel created Hamas.
     
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    You thought you were clever with that silly question there's been repeated mindlessly, and you didn't stop to consider that it was Hitler's same question. I didn't align you with Hitler.

    You did that all on your own.
     
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    My pop and father law both fought against Hitler and son has fought in the mid east, so you commenting to me, that Ive aligned myself with Hitler was like a sucker punch to me. Even at 73 I won't but up with that shit. You have a history of name calling or insinuations with people her and Im not the only thats called you out on it.
     
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    To be fair, the basis for that was the logic you used. Yes, the "aligning yourself with Hitler" comment was clearly intended to be inflammatory, but it also made a valid point (even if the inflammatory nature of the comment detracted from the point being made).

    So, obviously you don't agree with our support Hitler or Naziism. But @AmirIcon is not wrong in saying that when Jews were trying to escape Germany before WW2 actually began, many countries (including the US) severely restricted intake of Jewish refugees if not refusing them entry outright. And Hitler's response to this was basically to say, "See, nobody else wants these Jews in their country either--clearly they're subhuman."

    Unfortunately, by making the statement you made, which was:

    ... you did, in fact, invoke logic similar to that used by Hitler, without any clarifying commentary to differentiate. So rather than railing against those who pointed out the unfortunate similarity, you might consider taking a moment to clarify what you were intending to communicate. Otherwise, it will continue to look like you were suggesting that Egypt not opening their borders to innocent Palestinian refugees shows that they are not worth protecting, as though they are subhuman.
     
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    Hoopguru, Amiricon didn't say that you are like Hitler. To the contrary, he assumed you dislike Hitler, so you should avoid any easily corrected reasoning error, temporary to you, similar to Hitler's thinking. Get it?

    There are MANY results in common between Israel's recent tactics and Germany's cruel invasion of the Soviet Union. Read the news; the civilian slaughter is there every day. And imagine the part hidden from the news--the tens of thousands of civilian men arrested, then beaten and tortured to find which can give names and locations, then killed to keep it quiet.

    For example, Henry Kissinger claimed about his post-WW2 torture camp that he hadn't needed to torture because his men persuaded every German to talk without torture. The reporter was too scared to question that laughable proposition, or to ask whether the Allies' policy was to put Jews in charge of such camps due to their extra motivation.
     
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    Saying congrats for aligning yourself with Hitler isn't inflammatory?
    I compare Hitler more to Hamas, Hezbollah, and radicle clerics that want Jews dead and non existence.
     
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    Jesus.
     
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    Im all for a Palestinian State and Im hopeful it will happen.
     
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    Is there any support for this claim other than this tweet? It doesn't seem to link to any news article. It seems like if he actually made an official statement like this, it would be reported somewhere.
     
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