Religion Mid East Religious War

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    True.

    What was the goal again? Was it better than annexation?
     
  2. AmirIcon

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    I'd be surprised if he was stupid enough to do the damage we did.
     
  3. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Time will tell. I know there are those who think Putin's brilliant, but I'm not so sure.
    There's a possibility that he'll do much more damage, on purpose or by accident.

    barfo
     
  4. AmirIcon

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    Millions dead and almost 2 trillion dollars down? He's going to need to invade more countries if he wants to be like the American terrorists that run this country. He doesn't have to be brilliant to not do that.
     
  5. jonnyboy

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    Wow. Spout some more Kremlin talking points, comrades.
     
  6. oldfisherman

    oldfisherman Unicorn Wrangler

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    Millions dead? Hmmmm.

    Since 9/11 (13 years), est casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria and Pakistan, are about the same number of casualties suffered by the Russian army in Ukraine in only 2 years. Now add in Ukraine casualties.
     
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    There are many things about US foreign policy that can be justly criticized. Without being a Putin apologist.
     
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  8. jonnyboy

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    Sorry bud, 900k dead in Iraq alone. You aren’t even in the correct universe here.
     
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  9. AmirIcon

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    I want to know what world you're living in.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/15/war-on-terror-911-deaths-afghanistan-iraq/

    You think Russia is responsible for millions of deaths in two years time? You have to get off the mainstream news propaganda.
     
  10. oldfisherman

    oldfisherman Unicorn Wrangler

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    That many people may have died, BUT, no where near that many were killed by the US Military. People die everyday, everywhere. Pure propaganda bs.

    Fuzzy math can create any meaningless result.
    Example. A famous weightloss company claims you will lose 3 pounds per week on their program. Then why do they offer a lifetime membership?
     
  11. AmirIcon

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    US military is directly responsible because they started illegal wars in sovereign countries.

    LMAO there's a reason why the Afghan people preferred the Taliban to the corrupt and murderous Americans. You shouldn't be talking about propaganda when your brain is ingrained with it. You don't believe "your side" is responsible for anything bad. Disingenuous and dishonest.

    This is exactly why the establishment gets away with so much. Luckily the younger generation doesn't believe in the one-sided propaganda the msm espouses.
     
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    You actually think the Taliban are treating Afangis well? How about women's rights or does that matter? Just curious
     
  13. AmirIcon

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    That was the point. Afghans were so terrorized by the Americans, that they turned back to the awful Taliban. That tells you everything you need to know about America's presence in other countries. Don't forget America's hand in producing the Taliban.
     
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  14. Hoopguru

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    Dont buy it. Taliban are ruthless religious thugs that rule and kill women for wanting to be educated and or other women rights. They dont believe in the freedoms we have here in this country. Have a son that served in that region and he conveys that Taliban or as ruthless as ISIS.
     
  15. oldfisherman

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    Fixed it for you.

    90,000 Afgans are waiting for approval of their US special immigrant visa (SIV).

    Due to being hunted by the Taliban. Hundreds have traveled to Bazil and then making the 11 country trip to the open US southern border.

    This article is a year old. All 90,000 are still waiting for their SIV, well, the ones left that the Taliban have not killed yet.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/hundreds-afghans-risk-11-country-trek-seek-haven-united-states-2023-02-01/#:~:text=About 90,000 Afghans are awaiting,process to streamline wherever possible.”
     
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  16. Hoopguru

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    There's nothing to buy. It's a fact. Nothing you said about the Taliban negates my point.

    Kinda gotta wonder how bad the Americans were if they preferred the Taliban.
     
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    This is both true and does not negate my point...
     
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    There’s nothing you can say to change their mind dude. You even relented that the taliban was indeed awful and made the great point that people actually preferring it must mean the alternative is worse.

    Their answer? “The taliban is bad tho”. Somehow the phrase “millions dead” doesn’t resonate with them.
     
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    Dead bodies aren’t a quantifiable unit in boomer neocon mathematics. They just equal “0”. They much prefer the arithmetic of jets and missiles and dollars.
     

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