Funny The Daily Show with Jon Stewart

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  1. jonnyboy

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    They made millions in interest and were paid back the principal amounts in full. That is the LITERAL function of a bank. What are you even saying?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It's good that you admit that you don't actually know what you are trying to defend. That way you only look ignorant instead of venal.

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm saying if you don't even know anything about what you are talking about, I guess it's time to do something else.

    Do a little reading (maybe start with the charges, and finish with the decision) and then get back to us about how this is a victimless crime.

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    Trump has gotten away with an astonishing number of crimes. And continues to do so. If there are two standards of justice, there is one for most of us and another for rich and connected who have a cult following.
     
  5. jonnyboy

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    I’m back. It’s a victimless crime.
     
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    oldfisherman Unicorn Wrangler

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    Wrong!

    There would be no victims, IF, the bank had unlimited funds to loan. It did not.

    Honest business people's loans were denied because of the reduced funds available, due to Trumps fraudulant application.

    Trump damaged many honest people by denying them the opportunity to get a loan.
     
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  7. jonnyboy

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    With all due respect, you completely pulled this out of your ass. There is no metric or data to back this up. There is no list of “people who got denied loans because Trump got approved loans”. These claims were made by mainstream pundits and and found to be 100% fabrication based on nothing but loose speculation. There is no way to prove something like this. It sounds good, but it’s complete horseshit.
     
  8. jonnyboy

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    How have any current events lead you to the conclusion that Trump is somehow ‘favored’ by the justice system? What reality do you exist in?
     
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    Not specifically Trump. But the wealthy in general.
     
  10. jonnyboy

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    ‘Who have a cult following’ was oddly specific for a generalization.
     
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    Coming from a woman who will have absolutely nothing to say about Biden getting millions of dollars in bribes and extortion from foreign entities.
     
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    No one can honestly say that Trump would be prosecuted for this if it weren't politically motivated. The fact that all of these came on at once the year before the election, it's pretty clearly a coordinated attack. And it's petty BS.

    In the "fraud" case, they assert that Trump should have listed his assets based on the tax assesment value, not the real market value. But if it's being put up for collateral in a loan, that makes no sense. That property is worth hundreds of millions easily. If you were to get a loan against the value of your home, it would be at the real market value, not the tax assessed value.

    Let's leave that aside, and say there is some legalese reason why he should have used the tax assessed value. Who is the aggreived party? It would be the bank if anyone, but they are not the one pushing this. Also, the $450 million dollar punishment is insane.

    They also issued a summary judgment, with no trial.

    This has made many businesses afraid to operate in New York. Imagine the implications if the government can come down on you that hard if you're a political opponent.

     
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    Wrong! again.

    Banks keep detailed records of all loan applications. I am not a legal expert, so I do not know all of the ways the court can obtain these records. But one way comes to mind.

    A person that was denied funds from the bank after Trump's loan was approved, can file a lawsuit against Trump for obtaining the funds fraudulantly. And, include the bank in the case for mismanagment of those funds.

    During the discovery phase of this lawsuit. All of the bank records related to this case can be obtained.

    While searching the records. A list of people that were also denied funds can be obtained. A letter can then be sent to these people giving them the opportunity to join this lawsuit claiming damages, or, file their own lawsuit. There is a possibility of a class action lawsuit here.

    Here is another twist to the above lawsuits. Say a person that was denied the funds proves he met the requirments to recieve the funds, because, he recieved the funds from another bank. Now Trumps bank also becomes a victim of Trumps fraudulant application. The bank was damaged because they lost customers, and their future business.

    The real horseshit here is the faulty claims there were no victims. When in fact, Trump damanged many people, including his bank.
     
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    Wow. Lots of hypotheticals here. Why didn’t they choose to employ any of these tactics to prove their claim then? You are just naming off a bunch of shit that didn’t happen and saying “they could maybe possibly have potentially did these things” Yeah, well, they didn’t. So there is still zero proof of anything you are trying to claim. Dude not even the prosecutor tried to make these claims. You should’ve marched into court the last second to deliver the goods lol.
    Really silly argument here man. All those words to say nothing and prove nothing still.
     
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    You literally think somewhere in the records it says Mrs. XYZ cant have a loan because we gave it all to Donald Trump. You are grasping there, also he paid them all back so now the bank has more money to loan to people since he paid interest.
     
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  16. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Actually, what reality do YOU live in??? Any American who does not believe that justice in this country goes to the highest bidder (and always has) is either ignorant or an idiot. Pick your poison. Or at least wake the fuck up.
     
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    That's the name of the game. I'd love it if any elite who were caught doing those things was held accountable.
     
  18. jonnyboy

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    I was speaking of Trump specifically. No, the justice system is not doing him any favors right now. It’s clearly being weaponized against him for political reasons. You are speaking in vague and general terms to try and make a point. I don’t think anyone disagrees that those with money and power enjoy shortcuts the rest of us don’t have access to. I mean unless you bring up Biden lol. No corruption there though. The fact his upstanding son was involved with corrupt Ukrainian gas dealers who are involved with the corrupt Ukrainian government when he wasn’t busy smoking crack and fucking Ukrainian prostitutes with a guns to their heads and taking pictures of it has nothing to do with us sending billions to Ukraine now. There is no buying influence or access in that particular instance.
     
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    Whoa whoa whoa easy bud. That isn’t how banks work. They aren’t in it for profit. They simply lend their money out for free and hope people pay it back. They are like a generous social non-profit, not a business that grows by making large deals. When someone borrows a large amount from them it means they have to close their doors and cease doing business until payed back. It’s not like they’re insured and backed by the government through the FDIC or something. They are on their own.
     
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    Maybe the justice system is targeting Trump because he's been more blatant more often, and with greater sums than others?

    Maybe he's too big of criminal for the justice system to look the other way?
     

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