Is there no dichotomy between "intolerance of intolerance" and complete rejection of those who hold intolerant views?
Intolerance of intolerance of intolerance of int……… At some point it just looks like intolerant people looking in a mirror
"The paradox of tolerance states that if a society's practice of tolerance is inclusive of the intolerant, intolerance will ultimately dominate, eliminating the tolerant and the practice of tolerance with them". Now of course, this is no law or anything, however, if you follow the logic it checks out, at least in my philosophical opinion.
Apparently the theory was coined by a Karl Popper. I know nothing about him but now have opened a can of worms.
If they agree with the hate and racism Trump spreads and support him. That means they believe his message. I have no time for anybody like that in our lives. Use whatever terms you want. My family life as better without that in it, plain and simple.
I'm probably going to read about this a bit more in depth tonight as well. Feel free to share your notes, and I'll do the same.
I am accepting of all colors of people…..I am accepting of all types of sexuality…… my great grandparents came here from Mexico to find a better life. I believe in a women’s right to choose and I don’t believe people should be able to go around with guns assassinating innocent people. I believe Trump fuels EVERYTHING I stand against. You think differently on any of those topics and support that “man” in ANY way……I can promise you that you will not be welcome in my home or around my family. That’s how it is. It will never change.
Or some people just vote party lines no matter the candidate and the message they send. My uncle played pro baseball and some of his best friends as a player were black. I’m sure he’s not falling in love with the racist rhetoric. But he’s always voted Republican and much of it has to do with church ideologies. You travel a lot and probably work with camera dude’s from teams in the south or in Texas that are Trump supporters and you’d never know it unless you asked them.
SideNote…..I’ve said on here before, I didn’t vote FOR Joe Biden….. I voted AGAINST Trump. Anybody could have run against him and I would have done the same.
Great points about co workers of mine. Been to meetings and dinners and things are said and I immediately change my view of them and how I treat them. If your uncle feels that supporting Trump and his messages overrides his friendships with minorities, no disrespect, but that’s kinda shitty in my opinion. And if people are weak enough to vote on party lines or whatever it’s called, instead of the actual candidate….there is another trait I won’t have anything to do with. If Joe Biden was like Trump in ANYWAY, I would vote for whatever republican was going against him or independent, or whoever. If you vote for Trump, you don’t have my respect or will be apart of my life. Quite sure Trump supporters would give a damn….and I am straight with that. We don’t judge people by their color or sexuality or income in my house. My neighbor across the street and his wife have lived in that house longer than anybody. Retired Sheriff. Respect him for his service as an officer and his age. Called him sir and his wife ma’am. Things changed when Trump showed up on the political scene. As soon as that fat orange bastard started talking about shit whole countries and talking shit about our vets and all the other hat filled messages we had to endure, this old man put up a HUGE Trump sign. Started wearing the hats…… We completely cut him out of our lives. Don’t even look at him and his wife anymore. Fuck the hate! Wonder if my grandparents were still alive and came over how he would react. Don’t even want to think about it.
I agree almost completely. Except I’m not losing life long relationships with people over how naive they are. I prefer just not discuss politics with them and if I do I put them in their place and move on. These are people that held me as a baby, I’ve gone on countless trips with and spent summers at their home in Missouri. My mom is maybe the most extreme leftist you’ll ever meet and her best friend is her sister in Missouri that is a Trump supporter. They just leave politics at the door. Life’s too short. Love wins out.
Dude I have a coworker that’s a 2nd generation Mexican American that’s a huge outdoorsman that has Trump stickers on his truck. I got a black coworker that’s former military, like career military that’s a big Trump supporter. Its not all black and white. But there’s a big gray area.
Love it man. Love that you can live your life that way and be content. Thats the most important thing right? Yeah I don’t ever do politics and religion on social media. Actually this is the only place I have ever voiced my self proclaimed uneducated view on things politics. But after serving in the Army and traveling around the world for work…..I have seen and heard some pretty bad things. One of my daughter’s reasons for choosing where she is attending college was that it was the #1 most diverse campus in the country. That means a lot to my crew….. surrounding ourselves with diversity with one caveat (first time I’ve ever typed that word, hope I’m using that correctly) those we surround ourselves will need to be open minded and respectful of everyone else NO MATTER WHAT! We don’t have time for close mindedness. Not an option. Thats how I was raised and that’s how we raised ours.
And those people would never be a part of my life bro. Give a fuck what you are, if they share that bastard’s values….I don’t have the time.
I would love to have you find out what gray area they grew up in. There isn’t a SINGLE black or Mexican family member or friend of mine that would support that “man”. Would be interesting by who and where they were raised.