If the trans boys are beating the cis boys without having hormone levels that are elevated above a cis-male biological standard, then yes some cis-boys (and advocates) will complain, but their complaints will not be justified in my mind.
I wouldn't have any sympathy for anybody who had a problem, as long as everyone was following the rules.
You're right, there's no way to make everyone happy. That is not my goal. My goal is to be fair and reasonable. And no, I don't believe that this is cruel to trans athletes or denying their identity. The undeniable, biological fact is that physiology has a greater impact on athletic competition than identity does. The reason for Title IX's existence has nothing to do with gender identity expression; its implementation was based on the factual differences in physiology between those AMAB and AFAB. If we want to be true to the intent of that law, we need to protect athletic opportunities for cisgender girls.
I agree with that as well. However, I would also posit that from a Title IX perspective, the exceedingly rare instance of cisgender females participating in the open division would need to not reduce the availability of athletic participation opportunities for boys and trans-girls.
Athletics at many levels have different leagues, to accommodate fairness. 6A versus 4A, rec leagues for kids versus classic/top leagues for kids. Triple A vers MLB. They are available to level a playing field with regards to fairness. There should be leagues available for trans athletes. However, since the percentage is probably low they may not be able to field teams.
I get that. But, in a way it's not fair to the transgendered athletes because in their view it denies their identities, even if in your view it does not. I get you are trying to be fair and reasonable. I get cis female athletes are feeling disadvantaged and their parents feel they are disadvantaged. I'm not disputing that view. I'm not arguing the law. I'm just looking at it from both sides.
I don't think a league for just trans people is necessary. If somebody isn't competitive enough to play in the top open division they should be able to play at 4A or JV, or AAA or AA, or whatever level best matches their ability. If people aren't competitive enough to play at any of those levels then they have to join the rest of us in the stands or play rec. That's what most people do. There is nothing wrong with that.
I'm with @PtldPlatypus. Assessment at birth seems the most fair, most accurate, and least invasive line for the most people. I don't see any drawbacks for anybody beyond what most people who like to play sports have to deal with. If I were talented enough to play basketball for a living I wouldn't be at my current job.
I'm not aware of the exact OSAA criteria. I know I've seen girls play up into the boys divisions. Wrestling, football, etc. so it doesn't seem like much of a stretch.
And that's how it should be segregated. By ability. Period. You don't need to worry about gender/sex/zodiac sign/eye color etc. if you segregate by ability. Some people have more ability than others. It's not 'fair' but its the way it is for all of us, trans or otherwise. There's nothing more 'unfair' about a trans kid being strong than there is about someone who hits puberty ahead of their classmates, or someone whose parents were physical specimens, or whatever. barfo
How many Olympic world records do women hold over men? The reality is that high school champion boys are athletically more dominant than the most athletic women in the world. Separating boys and girls IS separation by ability. The fairest way possible.
Do you favor just doing away with girls and/or women leagues, and men/boys leagues, and just have an open league based on ability?
Actually, there are boys that might feel more comfortable playing on girls team as they are not as good as the average boy. When I coached youth baseball early on I had several girls that played on my team. I had boys that were not real talented that could have maybe done better playing girls softball. Some boys are just feminine and get along better with girls and probably would rather play softball.
Why does that matter? How many Olympic world records do 90-year-old men hold over younger men? No, it's definitely not the fairest way possible. There are some men who are less able than some women. barfo
