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  1. Shaboid

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    Perhaps. It could be in part because of measure 110 as well.
     
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    There is no doubt about that.
     
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    And Nebraska was on the forefront?
     
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    Except none of this coincided with measure 110. And Alaska didn't have a measure 110.
     
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    Nebraska was hit long before Oregon and Alaska. It started on the east coast and worked it's way west, hitting population centers earlier than less populated areas.

    Kind of the reverse of how marijuana spread.
     
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    There is a ton of doubt, including outright evidence to refute it. It's been posted in this forum a ton.
     
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    Can you give me a link please?
     
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    https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2024/02/15/oregon-110/#:~:text=A peer-reviewed study comparing,rates in Oregon have increased.

    That's just one link. There are a bunch of others that have been posted throughout this forum in the relevant threads.
     
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    I think you might be confused
     
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    The first case was in Washington state. The spread was the literal opposite of what you’re suggesting. There is more direct travel from China to the west coast, then to bigger population centers ftom there. It doesn’t travel independently and geographically, it spreads person to person. Many sparsely populated areas were hit last, if at all.
    Doesn’t have anything to do with overdoses regardless. The reason Nebraska doesn’t have a bunch is because it isn’t a lawless dump. The reason Oregon does is because, well, I’ll let you fill in the blank.
     
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    Fentanyl started spreading in the US southeast after doctors started pushing it as a safe pain med and getting people addicted. After that it hit the NE and started working it's way west.

    *Though, I don't actually know when or how bad Nebraska has been hit, since they aren't a very populated area they were probably hit later*
     
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    I thought you were talking about covid spread, because your point was the fentanyl crisis was in direct correlation to the pandemic?
    I may have misinterpreted your assertion. Anyhow, i was referring to covid spread in my last post.
     
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    Gotcha. No, I don't think fentanyl spread had much to do with COVID. Fentanyl was spreading across the US years before COVID. It just happened to hit Oregon hard at around the same time as a coincidence.
     
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    Relics of the mystical movement that took over an eastern Oregon community

     
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    Wow, this brings back memories.

    During the heat of this movement. For some reason, a group of us decided to make a family rafting/kayak camping trip down the John Day river.

    The John Day River was the boundry for part of their ranch. We were very careful to stay off of their ranch. It was well known armed guards patrolled the boundry.

    We camped opposite of their ranch, and had a good veiw of some of it, but not any of the buildings.

    Nothing bad happened to us. Other than dealing with creepy feelings.
     
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    I used to deal with them for equipment procurement and had to visit their buyers & construction supers, a number of times. Had to go through at least two check points to get in and there was a time they freaked out because I had an ATS in the back of my Station Wagon. I had been asked to bring it to look over, but the guards were not notified. I ended top waiting a while for the buyer to ok me entering with the switch gear. They were very hospitable bought dinner and drinks and I gambled at their casino. Communal living with big bucks for some. Got see see him drive by with Rolls and thought how could so many people following him and Shila.
     
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    Probably too freaking heavy
     
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    13th Oregon county votes to move state border, and join Idaho

     

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