We should add another lottery pick

I think you're moving the goal posts here again, but I'll indulge you: it's likely the blazers are already planning to move off key vets, and I think pretty much everyone in the fanbase and likely the front office knows they can't have high usage vets blocking development paths.

If you've read any of my posts you'll know I don't care about the roster limit or the tax line--they'll probably be out of that by the end of the next transaction window after a few moves. I'm using it to make the point, though, that the team will be clearing vets out to make room for the existing 2024 draft guys. this thread is about cashing in assets for additional 2024 picks.

 

What you don't seem to realize is that Jabari Walker is in par with the talent in the lotto right now.

The hope is that the guys in the draft have a larger development curve and will be better in 2-3 years than Walker is. Unfortunately, that is far from a guarantee.

 

You're not doing your job as a rebuilding organization if you're not.

Maybe. Maybe not. They need to cut salary and get value for some of the vets they've held onto for too long. If the only 1sts they can get are from this draft, then so be it.

 

All in?

 

Disagree. There’s way more boom or bust guys in the lottery. Walker has zero boom. He might be an 8th man in the league, which is fine, but he’s not going to be a star. There’s almost zero chance of it.

 

This is laughable.

 

No one is going to offer future picks until this draft window is over. Of course the first thing offered is going to be 24 picks.

When the new league year begins, that's when you'll see teams start offering up future picks. Not before.

 

You do realize that Cronin can have those conversations, right? Teams can tell Joe, we'll trade you our '24 pick, but not '25. You get that right? It doesn't require guesswork.

 

Wait, who’s guessing?

 

This is guessing in our hypothetical. The context is getting draft picks in '24 vs '25 or another year. Cronin should be able to know that when discussing potential deals with teams.

 

Pels get it...

 

How do you believe you know this?

Perhaps there are some teams trying to trade away their 2024 pick and they will be apt to trade a 2025 pick later. Or there could be a team that doesn't have a preference and is willing to offer a 2025 pick now. Or perhaps in a few months times 2025 picks will be much more difficult to acquire than right now. I'd expect this will vary team by team and I highly doubt you have any insight unless your in an NBA front office.

 

because teams are trying to extract value from their 2024 picks? this has been reported a bunch from multiple teams at the deadline. teams are trying to move down and out. (reported today by givony)

why are you pretending this is new information? highkin reported that the blazers turned up their noses at late first offers for brogdon, and that the blazers were prioritizing future firsts because they already have 2 lottery picks and 2 2nds.

 

If teams want out of this years draft then trade as many of the vets as possible for picks this year. That will set us up for the easiest tank next year when there is so much top talent.
So, taking more shots at 1st rounders while moving off talented vets this year only helps our chances next year. Addition by subtraction.

 

The 2024 picks are worth much less than most drafts, yes I believe the reporting with that and it also makes obvious logical sense.

Your statement is that 2025 and later picks will be more readily available after this draft, that's a different speculative statement that I question.

 

I'm all for trading our vets for youth/picks.

But when we had the 3rd worst record in the league I don't think we need to actively do anything to setup an easy tank next year, it's already setup.

 

If certain players fit less because of age when the Blazers are ready to compete (Grant) … or because of size of contract (Grant and Ayton) … or do not fit positionally and/or with others (Simons) … then make sure to get worse in the short term. The “danger” of good health of their best veteran players wins more games and is bad for higher picks.

Trade out to get draft capital and currently not as good younger players (who are projected to fit better, soon-ish). An Orlando trade returning Black and sending Simons has been mentioned … as an example.

The goal is getting better through the draft as Portland’s best chance.

 

Its not easy to fake injuries again imo.

 

We might be better off trading up to #1 or #2, making a move for Sarr - then take a flyer on a second round pick and call it a day. Any trades of Grant, (any vet) obtain 2025 picks.