Game 5 Panthers vs. Rangers

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  1. mrmel29

    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

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    The Rangers have been content to keep rolling a soft team out there year after year. That’s why even with some success and playoff runs they haven’t gotten over the hump. They’re not good enough and especially not tough enough.
     
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    I don't know if Winnipeg is willing to move him, but Ehlers is a guy I always liked alot.
     
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    We either are too soft, or we have too many grit guys and not enough finishers. This team lacks the ability to find the correct balance year after year. This year we went into the deadline needing a center that could win faceoffs, a right winger that could finish and a physical dman. What we got was a center that can’t score or win faceoffs, a right winger that has feet for hands and can’t finish and an 8th dman. Quite possibly the worst trade deadline moves for a cup competitor I’ve ever seen.

    Also, we HAVE TO move Fox, not because he’s killing the team but because what he could bring back. You trade him and you don’t HAVE to get a 1st dman back as we can move miller up. We do have to get someone ready to play now though that has grit and can finish, which is tough to get but for Fox it can be done. This team should look quite different next season. Ideally we move Fox, get Mika to waive his NMC and trade him, get Rosolovic and Wennberg out of here, lose deadweight Chytil and Kakko and rebuild from there. Lots of things need to be fixed and changed but not sure Drury is the right guy to do it.
     
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    Yup, many of us were mad at the deadline for that very reason. They were nonsense moves because Drury crapped out and they didn’t want egg on their face. Wenberg atleast is what he is an a bottom line and is passable. Roslovic is absolutely friggin useless.
     
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    Circle the wagons boys! The Rangers are not done yet no need to lose the faith this late. I don't get the negativity until the season is over then we'll have all Summer to discuss. I'm not seeing the coaching genius that Lav has but GG lacked, where are the adjustments? I agree why no PP line changes or why is Kakko out there flailing for 12 minutes per game??? while a guy like Rempe who actually puts fear in the Panthers gets 6 minutes? Laf plays the same minutes as Wennberg while Mika gets 5 more minutes per game, Panarin 4,
     
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    Who should Drury have traded for? No way Cindy would let Pitt trade Guentzel here and he was the cream of the crop.
     
  8. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Roslovic was good the first two series. He has 8 points in the playoffs. He’s not useless. He’s a role player and he’s been above average in the playoffs for his role. He’s not the one leaving people wide-open in front of the net or getting out worked. Trouba has been a turnover and penalty machine the entire playoffs, and considering he’s our captain and what he gets paid it’s not good enough.
     
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    We’re all with you bud. I’ll always support them to the end and then right back at it the next season. We’re sick lol.
     
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    I’d like to put my head through a wall with frustration when it comes to how the Rangers play right in front of Shesterkin. Never try to move anyone out. It’s absolutely unbelievable.
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    I have to say the role players aren’t the problem - Goodrow won games, Wennberg won a game, Rosolovic has been ok, Rempe has played hard. The top dogs aren’t getting it done this series
     
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    I feel like you can tell when a team is going to fade and it feels like tmr rangers will fade. Especially them who we’ve seen over the years bow out to better teams . Like in 2014 the Kings were the better team and it was obvious every game
     
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    There is no doubt guys like Mika, Panarin, Kreider, and Fox are at the top of the list for why the Rangers are trailing the Panthers, it is on those "top guys", agreed.

    With that said, I disagree with you guys on Roslovic adding anything really, and I claim he is useless two reasons. First, 4 of his 8 points, and both of his goals came against the very overmatched and outclassed Caps. In the 11 games since he has zero goals and 4 total points, and only has points in 3 of 11 games, so 8 of the 11 games in rounds 2 & 3 he has zero points. Second, he was not brought in to be a role player, he was brought in as the RW upgrade we needed to play with Kreider and Zibanejad, and he has been terrible at it. Wennberg has 1 goal and 2 total points in the playoffs and is 44% on FO's. Wennberg is not useless because he is a responsible player who plays on the PK as well, but he is not adding a lot of value, and I feel he is a big reason the 3rd line has done sh*t all playoffs. Those are the two guys Drury added for our big SC push, and it was not good enough.

    To your question Panzer of who Drury could have traded for, it is a very fair and legit question, and I don't have a for sure answer. All I will say is just because someone wasn't traded doesn't mean he couldn't have been for the right offer. If Drury was willing to trade the 30th pick, could we have gotten a legit RW. Could we have gotten Buch, could we have gotten Vatrano, could we have gotten someone else of value, maybe a C who could actually win a FO and score a few goals unlike Wennberg? Not sure, but I know what we did add was not good enough. But hey, the playoffs are not over yet, maybe one or both of these guys will step up and help us come back and win this series.
     
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    Completely inaccurate. Other than one loss, three to nothing the Rangers out played the Kings the majority of those games. The officials screwed the Rangers twice in games with like two minutes left so much so that the league apologized in the off-season to the Rangers. I still say if Girardi was close to healthy and that series the Rangers win it.
     

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