Anfernee Simons trade destinations

If I dig up the posts wanting to give Ant, CJ's minutes, will that change your mind?

If by 2026 we don't have people wanting to trade Sharpe, I'll happily eat crow. And that's not me saying we should trade him.

 

no, not really...you said "before we wanted to trade CJ to make room for Ant". I still don't know who the 'we' was; seems like you were including yourself?

and yeah, I understand rhetorical devices. How about this: the number of blazer fans who wanted CJ traded to make room for Ant was extremely small compared to those that wanted CJ traded to change the back court dynamic by adding more length and defense. Ant has the same deficiencies that CJ had

 

Ant was never drafted to be our primary pg, he’s made to be an off the bench gun slinger.

 

Scoot and Sharpe are on rookie contracts so Ants salary is fine for the next two years.

Now paying Thybulle $12 million to be the 12th man....

 

The collective we. For me, my feelings on trading CJ (or Ant) are the same as most players. If we can improve the assets on the roster, then I'm all for it.

I have no clue if your theory as to why people wanted CJ traded is correct. I'm unsure of the breakdown of why people want Ant traded between his defense vs him making room for Sharpe. And I probably won't know the percentage breakdown why people end up wanting Sharpe traded between him "not having a killer instinct" vs "injury prone".

What I am confident about is that this board will be discussing trading Sharpe by 2026. If I'm wrong, bump this thread and I'll eat crow. If I remember, I'll bump it on my own and call myself out.

 

What is this theory based off of? Is that what was said in his introductory press conference? Or pure speculation?

 

Simon’s is slightly above average. The people clamoring to keep him have an overinflated value of his worth.

He probably means more to us then he does to other teams, which speaks volumes about where we are as a team.

 

When we drafted him I believe he was talked about more as an off guard with Dame and CJ as starters. He did develop onto a back up combo guard, but I still believe his attributes are more shooting. He has not perfected how to get others all that involved as a pg. We drafted the future pg in Scoot.
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After further review and thought I now view him as a combo guard. I still think he's a natural scorer/shooter off the dribble and has a knack for getting shots off quickly.
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Thybulle can do something none of the other three seems capable of.

 

As soon as he shrinks about 2-3 inches.

 

I recall a number of mocks had him designated as shooting guard. But him being small it made since to play combo.

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   25. Los Angeles Lakers (via Cavaliers): Anfernee Simons (USA, SG, 1999)
   
   A high-upside project, Simons is tough to reach on early, as teams have only seen him face high school competition. He's a long-term value pick for his athleticism and scoring potential, although he'd benefit from evolving into a playmaking combo guard.
   
   
   

 

Get rid of the teams dead weight. Thybulle and Robert Williams. That almost = Simons salary.

So we trade Simons, then we're going to be trying to draft a good shooter to replace him.

 

No one seems to have an overinflated value of his worth, they just don't think the realistic return for him is worth much either. So why move him? To save Jody some money? How can we overvalue him if we think he should come off the bench? Everyone says if you get value back for him then do it.

 

Maybe this team should, one god damn time, call a player's bluff, and let them walk if another team offers them an insane contract?

 

Same reason the Warriors moved Monte Ellis.

 

Monta Ellis was a low efficiency chucker though.

 

That's funny...
I just compared both Simons & Ellis advanced stats. The only thing Simons appears to be better than Ellis at is having a higher TS%.
Any of the other wholistic stats (PER, BPM, ws/48, etc) appear to have Ellis ahead

 

I don't think so.
First of all Stephen Jackson and Andrew Bogus was a pretty good return for Ellis.
Secondly Ellis had to go because he didn't get along with Steph and they were a duplication.
Ant gets along with both Scoot and Sharpe and he is not a duplication of either.

 

it's true that Ant is more efficient in a raw comparison. But the missing context changes the picture quite a bit:

* this season, Ant's TS% was .568; and the NBA median was .579
* in Monta's 6th season his TS% was .536. But the NBA median was .539 (yes, it's gone up by that much)

in other words. Ant's TS mark was 98% of the league median; Monta's was 99% of the median

Monta was also a much better defender. His career DBPM was -0.3. Ant's is -2.3. After 6 season's Monta's VORP was +5.9. Ant's is +1.1. But the Warriors knew that Monta was standing in the way of a Curry/Klay back court