Official off-season thread 2024

Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by kreidertime, May 31, 2024.

  1. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    I think Trouba is a good guy, but he’s starting to get a little weird with this painting stuff. I would try to move him or buy him out and make Lafreniere the captain. I think he would fucking flourish with the C on his chest.
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Yea, was going to say the same thing.

    dumping a 4th liner is not impressive. Trade Fox or make life miserable for Zib so he agrees to a move or anything that affects the core would show balls. Not this.
     
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    I view it a little differently. I don't think it is impressive or not impressive or ruthless because he waived a 4th liner. The point Brooks was making, and I agree with it, is it's ruthless because Goodrow didn't want to go to SJ and they were on his 15 team no trade list, but Drury said I don't care and waived him so SJ could claim him anyway. That isn't some miraculous move by Drury, but it is something winning organizations do, and don't worry about players feelings. I think he is right on that, and to see Drury do it gives me hope he will be willing to make the other big moves that are needed, be that trading Fox or Zibanejad or something else big.

    The Goodrow move needs to be step one, if it isn't then I will be with you guys. I believe this was the first step in the makeover Drury is trying to get done this summer to take the final step, and showing he doesn't give a sh*t about what Goodrow wants is a good start.
     
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    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

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    This aged well.
     
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    Rumors will be swirling all summer but if Buffalo wants Kakko Drury should make a deal as quickly as he dumped Goodrow.
     
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    Go Oilers
     
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    If Buffalo wanted to trade a 1st and Greenway for Kakko I'd probably do it. I don't see them trading any other forwards other than maybe Krebs, but he's been disappointing too. They won't deal Tuch I don't think.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    The Sabres have several talented forward prospects that’s what I would go for if I was going to give them Kakko.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Savoie is the guy I would want. He’s short but he’s a stud. I said that Edmonton’s defense was huge and Florida wasn’t gonna impact them like the Rangers. It took three games but now it’s showing up.
     
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    If you are going to trade Kakko, you should be looking at a skill for size/toughness type situation. Like Kakko for a more traditional 3rd line bigger grit forward, or a bigger more physical dman. That's the formula I think, some finesse/talent for size/toughness.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    No. The Rangers need to get back a young or young, NHL ready. offensive centers. Chytil is toast most likely and Zibanejad is a moron who can't play with anybody but Kreider. They just dumped Goodrow. They have Othmann and Perreault at wing. I'm not confident that they have centers coming up. They need to move Kakko for a center with skill.
     
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    So you’re saying we need a center, which is what we all said we needed at the trade deadline but didn’t get? Cool. Now we also need a center to fill Goodrow’s spot AND a third line center that can win face offs. I am ok with losing Goodrow because of the money but I have no faith in Drury doing what needs to be done. He will probably go after Kane, who will be a wonderful fit with this team playing on the perimeter.
     
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    I could see them targeting Duchene in FA.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    He had a terrible playoffs, but he still a top face off guy and good insurance if Chytil can’t play as usual.
     
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    I am not worried about skill; I am focused on adding size with toughness to create a legit 3rd line. A # 3 C who has size and can win FO's is big need. Kakko is not a 3rd line guy, he is a top 6 guy, and if he gets moved it should be for a better fit on the 3rd line with size and toughness, if it is for a C who can win FO's and we kill two birds with one stone, all the better.

    Kakko is not a good fit here given the skill we have in the top 6, and I expect Drury will add to that this summer with a RW to play with Kreider and Zibanejad, which will only make Kakko even worse of a fit.
     
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    You should worry about skill, especially at the center position because we don’t have enough. Especially if Chytil doesn’t play. Zibanejad and Trochek are not young. Lafreniere needs a young center to grow with. Drury has a lot of work ahead of him. Cuylle and Othmann are going to provide that toughness and grit. Sykora also. I really wish Laba turned pro. I think he had a good chance to make the team and you want these young guys like him to get the experience now before Shesterkin gets well into his 30s.
     
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    People are overreacting to grit and toughness. This team sucks offensively at even strength and has for years. Zibanejad has become a specials team player. Nothing more. They need a significant upgrade talent wise. Especially at center.
     
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    Of course, you want good players with talent and skill, but to me adding size and toughness for the 3rd line, and if that can be a C who wins FO's, that is the route I would go. I am not saying get some scrub no talent guy with size, I am saying maybe he won't be the same natural talent level as Kakko, but is bigger/stronger, doesn't always play on the perimeter, and is a better fit on the 3rd line, that is the play IMO.

    I also don't think the two are separate issues, the Rangers not scoring at even strength or in the playoffs for a long time. Having a team full of skilled finesse guys, and not enough size and toughness that can also score some goals and ability to score the dirty goals as well, is a big reason why the Rangers struggle to score 5 on 5 and in the playoffs. The proof, their PP has been great for years, why, the talent level on the team is very high. The size and toughness are low. That is the issue, and where the focus needs to be, right fit for their roles size and "dirtiness" needs to be added for sure.
     
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    This is the issue to me. The Rangers have way too many perimeter players, and it’s been that way for too long. Kakko needed a Jagr to show him the ropes, instead he got Panarin. Nothing wrong with Panarin, but Kakko doesn’t have his skill level. Off season needs for the rangers are a RW that has size and knows how to use it, a physical d-man and a center or two that can win faceoffs. And we REALLY should be looking at moving Fox before his NTC kicks in and we are stuck with another dman with a huge price tag that is unmovable. Fox could bring back a huge haul honestly. It’s 100% worth exploring.
     
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    Kakko is a bust, he's played 300 games and only scored 57G/60A and is a zero physically - I've never seen a player look so awkward and inept throwing the body. Drury should take what he can get to open Floppo's spot to a free agent or prospect.
     

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