Anfernee Simons trade destinations

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Where does Ant land?

  1. Spurs

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  2. Magic

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  3. Nets

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  5. Jazz

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  6. Bulls

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  8. Blazers 2024/25

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  1. beast blazer

    beast blazer Well-Known Member

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    Damian Lillard was hella over-rated. Poor defense, mediocre as a distributer, he just scored a lot of points, mostly at an average efficiency rate. Simons skill set is very similar.
     
  2. wizenheimer

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    LOL...your blind-Ant-love is making you say stupid things
     
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  3. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    That would be great...eventually. As it stands, I think it will be really valuable to see how Ant performs in a lineup with a legit pair of forwards, including one that can create a bit.
     
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    Agree completely if Portland can't move Ant for decent value. I also look forward to not using Ant as a ball stopping ISO player as well. With Scoot and Advija in the lineup as better facilitators to Ant, he should concentrate on being a catch and shoot floor spacer and put whatever effort he can muster on defense. Obviously he can play some PG but I would prefer to see Advija in that role if Scoot is out. Advija's point forward ability is really game changing for Portland in my opinion.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Lol
     
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    an Ant trade idea from RealGM:

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    I know most won't like that trade, but it could be trading Ant for a solid Lottery pick

    that 2029 first returned + shedding 26M in salary + gaining a 26M TPE. I know it won't happen but that does seem like Portland does pretty well
     
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  7. beast blazer

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    Bullshit. People that ask of Dame is the best Blazer of all time don't know what they're talking about. He wasn't even the best PG of all time. Terry Porter was better than Damian Lillard, zero question.


    Far better defender, better distributer, not as explosive of a scorer but a 3 level scorer. In his prime he was averaging 19/9 on 60% TS%

    If we could redraft one or the other, I'd take Porter in a heartbeat.
     
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    Porter was good; maybe the 2nd best Blazer PG (Rod Strickland and Lionel Hollins were good too) but he wasn't at Dame's level

    it's hilarious you're working so hard at pissing on Dame so you can prop up Ant
     
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    ZERO CREDIBILITY. That's what you've got. Dame is easily the best point guard this team has ever had. Dame's assists per game are only .3 behind Porter. Porter was a more efficient three point shooter but we know the difference in the types of threes and their impact on games. He wasn't as good from the free throw line nor did he get to the line anywhere close to as much as Dame. Terry wasn't close to the three level scorer. Holy shit this fucking exercise is stupid. The Ant exercise is fucking stupid.

    These players aren't close to as good as Dame. You're not only calling into question your ability to assess Dame, Ant and Terry but this is such an absolutely asinine take it calls into question how well you understand the game generally. All of this bullshit about Ant compared to Dame is fucking pathetic from a sports argument standpoint. Seemingly absurd but sadly I think you're serious.
     
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    One word : horrible!

    this is what I’m talking about. From a GM standpoint some of you in here are clueless about getting equal value back in an Ant trade.
     
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    Dame and Ant bring the same overall skillset to the table. How do you quantify Dame being so much better? By what metric?

    Porter was much better and creating for his teammates, better at defense, and maybe could have scored as many points if he took as many shots, but he was a much better team player.

    Lillard 4-8 in all-time in his playoff series. And yeah, he could score a lot of points, but his career TS% in the playoffs is only 56.6%, and because he's not good in any other area, that doesn't translate to winning. It just looks good onthe box score.
     
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    You can't make any argument to back that up aside from stomping your feet. Porter was averaging 9-10 assists per 36 in his prime. Porter was better in 2 out of 3 main phases, and Lillard only scored more in proportion to how many more shots he took. Something that bit the Blazers in the playoffs several times. Teams would double/Trap Dame and he had no answer. He just stubbornly kept trying to score on his own.
     
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    Damian was the Carmelo Anthony of PGs.
     
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    I don’t think posters here are clueless. Many are very realistic. When just stating the obvious, Ant is a short, ball stopping tweener that can’t defend but has above average offense. Currently, there does not seem to be a bidding war for his services and in his defense we do not know what Portland is asking for. We also do not know if Ant is receptive to being the sixth man until a good deal for him materializes. But in my opinion, a deal that sheds his salary and returns a possible future lotto pick seems fair.
     
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    Posters here may not be clueless, but the "ball-stopping" narrative is.
     
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    You don’t trade away a 25 year old we took 6 years to groom for a damn lottery pick that we have no clue what will end in down the road and just to shed salary.

    that’s a great way to get Cronin fired and to make our team, one of the worse in the league, even worse!

    We need more talent, not get even worse, and not trade away our best players basically for nothing and a salary dump, sorry to say.
     
  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Ouch man….. basically a salary dump. That’s brutal.
     
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    Yet Ant had better usage with Dame next to him, maybe you need to understand that we had poor talent on our team that Ant was on forced into taking a load of the offense.

    What can change that is our young guys getting better each year, that’s how we take the next leap and Ant won’t be forced to shoulder most of the offense.

    This will be Sharpe’s 3rd season, this is big season for him. We SHOULD see improvements but that’s we shall see.

    Scoot should be better too. Camara and Walker too.
     
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    Damian is the best Blazer of all time, but Ant should be traded in a salary dump. Makes no sense.
     
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    Yeah, if we can't get an earlier pick than that I'd do it. Guys like Ant just aren't that valuable.
     

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