Plausible destinations for our vets?

Holy shit! What in the fuck does any of this have to do with where our players with more experience might end up???

Personally I think it's ridiculous when grown people, usually men, whine about having to stop using words that they knew were disrespectful all along (insanity in a general sense not being one of them). Better yet is when the same people whine about it when they choose to keep using disrespectful words and get called out on it. People telling you that it's unacceptable for you to use words that used to be acceptable is just them using their freedom of speech and unless you're getting thrown in prison for it, you're not being censored. If someone finds a word you use offensive, why don't you stop being a snowflake and letting their offense hurt your feelings. Just accept that boorishness has always had consequences and suck it up.

Honestly there has to be a better place for this conversation because it has nothing to do with the Blazers or more specifically "plausible destinations for our vets". @JFizzleRaider it might be time for you to take this shit to the OT because most of us don't click on a thread in the main forum about player movement to read this sort of shit, be it political or philosophical.

 

It is not defendable. It is derived from the word negro, which means black. A word that in Spanish means, wait for it, black. It is the only word that they use describe the color black still. So when it permutated into the American Lexicon it was a slur from the beginning. It has always been a slur. You know this, I know this, but you are just trying to be cute, implying I am uncaring, insensitive or uneducated. Try tolerance. You know nothing of me. I know nothing of you other than you try to be cute with language. You have some good basketball takes.

 

Woke up to check in… realized there’s enough woke in here I may never need sleep again

 

So…. Are we shipping our vets to the Lakers so that they can get better now and us later?

 

Seems like a plausible situation for the only guy left on our roster who should actually be called a vet.

I think Ant and Deandre are better defined as young players who maybe have shown where their ceilings are but could probably eek out just a little more production than they've shown to this point. I still think they're both win now players who are slotted to play in front of guys who we hope have higher ceilings and therefore should be being shopped but we should have less of a sense of urgency to cash in on any value they have than we do with Jerami who almost definitely isn't going to improve his trade value and if we wait until next off season could have even less trade value.

 

Ant, Ayton, and Timelord have all been in the league 6 years. They will be entering their 7th seasons, 3 years removed from their rookie scale deals. The average age of an NBA player is 26.03; average age of an NBA rookie is 19.5; the average number of years in an NBA career is 4.5. Timelord is 26.75; Ayton will be 26 in 10 days; Ant turned 25 six weeks ago (Thybulle turned 27 four months ago)

all of those players are veterans. Ayton is already at the average age; Ant will be in less than a year. Calling them young players seems like a real stretch. They would be young for the PGA tour; not so much for the NBA

 

Yeah, I would not categorize them as young, but most consider an NBA player's prime years between 27 and 31....so at least they haven't peaked yet.

 

I don’t necessarily agree that DA and Ant are both objectively “slotted” in higher than guys with higher potential than them. For two reasons, I think the 3 guard lineup works for us - so now that Malcolm’s gone I see our situation quite well: secondly I see DA and DC playing a lot together.

I actually really love our roster construction atm particularly after we trade JG. Someone with less needs such as Rui would probably work better here anyway.

 

sure

statistically, Dame's best season came when he was 32, although it may have been when he was 29. But when players get to be 25-27, generally they can continue to improve, incrementally, but it's rare for there to be any significant leap upward. Ant and Ayton have very likely established their baseline production and efficiency

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Jalen Brunson - Age: 27-317d
De'Aaron Fox - Age: 26-206d)
Jayson Tatum - Age: 26-132d
SGA - Age: 26-001d
Deandre Ayton - (Age: 25-356d
Luka Doncic - Age: 25-136d)
Anfernee Simons - Age: 25-035d
Jaren Jackson Jr. - Age: 24-302d
Haliburton - Age: 24-135d
Tyrese Maxey - Age: 23-252d
Jalen Williams - Age: 23-090d
Anthony Edwards - Age: 22-343d
Franz Wagner - Age: 22-321d
Alperen Sengun - Age: 21-354d
Paolo Banchero - Age: 21-244d

 

I think the “big three” are the same as last year: Ayton, Ant and Grant. I just don’t see Joe moving Ant or Grant. Nobody is giving 2 good frps for 3rd or 4th options.

 

https://lakeshowlife.com/posts/3-outside-box-trade-targets-lakers-pivot-pursuing/3

 

Testify!

 

Blazer Fans and Oregonians in general are pretty tame in comparison to a lot of fan bases(like my beloved Raiders for example),reading all this makes me wonder how nasty some Knicks or Nets forums get.

 

I think they'd be happy with one unprotected first and a young-ish player they like.

 

if your team had the potential to be a top-4 pick, would you want them to trade that for Grant or Simons?

 

Usually teams have a pretty good sense of whether they're going to be good or not in a particular year. Using the Lakers as an example, Pelinka's reticence to deal tells you that they know they're going to suck in a few years.

Jerami Grant this year is better than a #15 pick, no? (a lottery-protected pick)

If you drafted at 15, you'd be lucky to get someone who does what Jerami Grant did last year.

If Atlanta offered Portland Kobe Bufkin for Grant, you'd say no, right?

Charlotte with Mark Williams?

Washington with Corey Kispert?

Orlando with Cole Anthony?

I'd probably say the same thing about a pick with top 8 protections, too. In an average draft, Jerami Grant is giving you more than that pick.

 

We need to find some soon. I feel like we have logjams everywhere.

Ant/Scoot
Sharpe/Banton
Deni/Thybulle/Camara
Grant/Walker/Murray
Ayton/Clingan/Reath/RWIII

Rupert/Minaya/McGowens

Forgetting anyone? I think there is zero chance we don’t trade a Center.

 

Ant/Grant/Tbybulle/Reath seem like the obvious guys. I think 2 get moved.

 

Grant for sure

With Brogdon out, Scoot / Sharpe / Ant will have playing time

 

Interesting that one thinks Simons has a reasonable salary for his production and the other thinks Grant does also.