But immigrants coming to the US aren't more violent. They are less violent. We have data on that. Trump likes to ignore that because he's racist. Same reason he wouldn't rent apartments to black people in white neighborhoods. Same reason he thinks neo Nazis are fine people. He's a racist piece of shit. That's not demonization. That is fact. That is one of many traits why we should not allow him to be our president or hold any government office.
Trump has been leading both sides, and the media, by the nose, for years. Trump is a narcissist. He plays the media, so they will talk about him. It gets his jolly's off. Granted the media makes money off of Trump, and is their main source of give a crap on the subject. So they are as culpable for Trump, as Trump is himself. The left repeats, retweets Trump's words, videos all day long. Doing Trump's bidding. Narcissists want you to talk about them. By doing so, every day. You help fulfill their greatest fantasy. A world talking about them. Both sides literally seem to work, for Trump. Or at least his ego.
No. Your post might have been well-intentioned, but it quickly falls into the very hypocrisy it rails against. When Project Valkyrie failed in 1944, Hitler didn’t become less of a Nazi, less racist or less violent, and it wasn’t the job of everyone else to ignore him for what he was. It’s the same here. We absolutely don’t want anyone shot to death, especially for a differing political point of view. However, Trump has been the one from Day 1 (even before Day 1) swimming in xenophobic, misogynist, racist, violent tropes. It’s him and his party leadership that is following nearly step for step what the Nazis did in Germany in the 1920s and early 1930s. It’s him that raped and defamed E. Jean Carroll. It’s him that cheated on his wife with a porn star. And it’s him, despite all that, who still is running for president and it’s his supporters that don’t care that he did all of that. The left didn’t put words “It’ll be a bloodbath if I don’t win” into his mouth. It wasn’t the left Svengali-ing him into calling KKK “very fine people” or undocumented immigrants criminals and mentally ill people or saying for his supporters to punch anyone heckling him at a rally and he’d pay for it, or to incite his supporters to attack the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 chanting to kill Pence and Pelosi, or to want to implement a radical change in government that would result in perpetual minority rule for him and his followers. That’s not normal or acceptable and we have a responsibility to shine a light on it so everyone’s aware. You’re advocating that, despite Trump taking this rhetoric into this realm that his opponents not call him on it. That’s ridiculous. This stuff isn’t being made up. It’s just recounting what he’s said and done. You can’t say it’s OK for him to do it but Democrats have to campaign with an arm tied behind their back. We need to be fair. We can sympathize for him and the shooting victims and denounce the act while still being honest about who Trump is, indeed who he’s always unabashedly claimed to be. All it takes for evil to triumph is for everyone to stand around and take no action. The bullet didn’t absolve Trump, just like Stauffenberg’s bomb didn’t absolve Hitler. They still were who they were. They don’t get a pass on their bad acts because someone tried to eliminate them. They need to be judged on their merits and their sins. Also, you make an incorrect and dangerous assumption -- and, again, one that is divisive in a post that you claim is to be against division -- that Crooks must be a leftist. Maybe he is, but he also appears to have been a gun-enthusiast, which is more aligned with the right. It’s worth remembering that Stauffenberg and his co-conspirators against Hitler were themselves Nazis. Alexander II might have been the most enlightened of the Russian tsars, freeing the serfs, and yet his subjects blew him to bits. In the future, maybe don’t accuse others of what you yourself are doing in your narrative.
I wish I could like this post by @PCmor7 twice. A campaign has normal levels of criticism of opponents. Calling for jailing isn't. The Republican candidate for governor of North Carolina said some people should be killed. What Democrat said that? When a Bernie Sanders supporter shot Republican Steve Scalise, Sanders denounced in no uncertain terms. Said anyone who resorts to violence cannot be part of his movement. When Pelosi was attacked Republicans laughed.
Along those lines, let me tell you about something that happened this morning as I stopped for some groceries on my way home from work. I heard two of the clerks talking as I entered the store about how they wished the political ads would just stop for a while after the Trump shooting. As I was checking out, I mentioned to them that I heard Biden was suspending campaign ads for a bit because of it. Here was the conversation that followed. “Well, he and his whole administration should be in jail right now for causing this with what he said.” “What do you mean? What did Biden say?” “He said we need to stop ramping up this rhetoric. And then he put up a picture of Trump with a bull’s-eye on him.” “Are you sure? I don’t think that happened.” “Oh, it did. It did.” “I don’t think it did. Could we make a wager and if you can find it you can show it to me the next time I’m in here?” “Megyn Kelly said it did.” “Who said Biden did that?” “Megyn Kelly.” “So you’re telling me you didn’t even see this? That you’re getting this second hand from a person paid to spread a certain partisan narrative? I’ll tell you what. Let’s bet on this.” “No. I don’t want to.” And then, as if the discussion never happened, we started talking about spices we put on food.
I think every Trump rally attendee should insist from now on that they be allowed to bring a gun in order to protect themselves.
I'm still waiting for the party of self-reliance and accountability to pull themselves up by their bootstraps on this. If you don't want violence, don't accept your candidates advocating violence. If you don't want the campaign run in the mud, then maybe don't go there. Use your time to clean up your own messy house rather than going to your neighbor's place and chastising them on the dust bunnies. "Good for me but not for thee" comes to mind here, and it really shouldn't.
All the advocating for violence has come from the left. They supported the BLM/Anitfa riots, you had Maxine Waters openly calling for republicans to be harrassed in public. And the truth you lefty's won't acknowledge, is that the violence has been 99% against Trump supporters. I can show you dozens of videos of Trump supporters being assaulted. At universities, it's the leftists who prevent conservatives from speaking through threats of violence. And now some TDS dipshit attempted an assassination, and you act like it was somehow deserved. Disgusting.
Isn’t it a little on the nose to start calling them the SS? Anyway I’m glad Trump is alive. It would be worse for me right now if he’d been assassinated outright; I still need to exist in the suburbs occasionally.
Trump will not be an effective president, he will continue to make the country worse, but the constant rhetoric about how he will destroy Democracy, how Project 2025 will shoot your grandmother, it's over egging the pudding. For us here, we can be rational about it. You just never know how a mentally ill person will take that information.
Still waiting to hear who the klan members would vote for in this election. It doesn't matter that the Klan was "founded" by Democrats, or that they would've voted for a Democratic candidate in the 1940s..I'm talking today.
I took a lot of what Trump said as "just talk" the first time. He wound up trying to do exactly what he said and he was worse than I thought possible. I'm taking him at his word. He wants to be dictator. He wants democracy ended. Along with that will come people's grandmothers being shot. I'm sorry, but that's not over egging the pudding. That's what we're facing if Donald Trump wins. It will be more intense under his 2nd term. I'm not going to stop speaking the truth because some crazy people might get riled up. If these things weren't true I would understand people trying to silence it. That is unfortunately not the case. We really are facing a significant threat on democracy in this election. That's our choice.
The joke on the right about the klan for years has been that they've got around 3000 active members, and 2500 of them are in the FBI. It was quite amusing to see David Duke get thawed out for a pro Palestine rally. They exist to show up at a political event with a confederate flag fresh out of the packaging, wear sunglasses, and not get doxxed by journalists for whatever reason. The only thing guaranteed for me with a Trump victory is even more dead Palestinian children. On domestic issues, he has routinely showed himself to be entirely ineffective. I am not taking a song and dance man at his word. I lived through one Trump term already without America becoming a dictatorship. I'd prefer to not go through another one, but it is what it is at this point.
