Politics The Kamala Harris Thread

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  1. jonnyboy

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    Kamala isn’t going to be the nominee. Despite being vigorous, she is somehow less likable than a semi-conscious Biden. She’s Hillary-level political kryptonite and polling shows this. She’s getting passed on.
     
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    There's no reason for Newsom to want to be on this ticket as VP... first of all, governor of California is probably more opportunity/a bigger job than Vice President. Secondly, if polling is at all accurate, then it's an uphill battle for Democrats and I don't see why Newsom would risk losing just for the upside of being VP.

    It would be more worth it to run at the head of the ticket, but the logistics (the convention, fundraising, etc.) would be like running with one hand tied behind his back.

    He's better off running in 2028 than playing second banana. He'd win and be stuck there for four or eight years, or he'd lose and might be radioactive down the road. Not everyone can pull a Nixon and withstand big election losses and bounce back... look at Rick Perry, who was governor of Texas for 12 years before he ran for President the first time at the age of 61 and he was never quite the same (he was governor for another three years and then lost in the primaries of 2016).

    Newsom is going to be 57 in October... young enough to wait four years before he makes a real run but old enough that he it would be tougher to bounce back like Nixon did (at age 49) when he lost the California governor race in 1962 (after being VP for eight years, starting at age 39, and probably one televised debate against JFK from the presidency in 1960) even if politicians generally have longer careers these days.
     
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    Kamala will have trouble getting moderates, progressives or MAGA ...

    Just kidding. The Dems already have largely consolidated around her and there are anti-Trumpers jumping on board.

    She's going to win by more than Biden did. They better start lining up security for the Capitol and order Hawley some new running shoes now. I'm calling this one. It's over.
     
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    What happened today and probably over the last couple of days was how the Dems should have handled things earlier. Instead of panicking publicly like they did after the debate, this has all the earmarks of a lot of backroom negotiations.

    As soon as Biden withdrew and threw his support behind Harris, left leaners from all sectors immediately came out as being on board and campaign rhetoric already was hitting the social media platforms running. That doesn't happen unless it was in the works.
     
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    Totally agree with that.......and she's qualified as a politician at different levels. Im just not sure the Harris GN ticket would be the best combination to appeal to midwesterners and moderates?
     
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  6. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Which Democrat, that wouldn't lose a large portion of the base (arguably larger than the midwesterners and moderates), do you propose?
     
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    I’m backing Harris as well. I would feel much better if it was Michelle Obama going up against Trump though.
     
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    I think we all would, but it is where we’re at.
     
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    Curious, from your perspective who do you think is the strongest dem candidate to go up against Trump in the general election?
     
  10. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I like how every candidate that the Democrats put up, according to maga, isn't smarter than Donald.

    They seem to think that just saying something makes it true.

    You could say it a million times, but Donald is not a genius.

    He's a con man, and he's what stupid people think smart is, but he's not actually smart.
     
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    Newsom, unfortunately. Everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie but he’s silver tongued and very good at it. Or Michelle Obama based on likability. Policy means less than nothing.
     
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    You support Trump, so clearly "lying" is not an issue for you.

    But what lies is Newsom famous for?
     
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    Kentucky’s Andy Beshear and Pennsylvania’s Josh Shapiro. I realize that nether is exactly midwestern but couple with Harris as a VP candidate versus Gavin, imo would be better. Just a young almost 74 year olds take. Im also not opposed to an open convention.
    Who do you likes a running mate for Harris?
     
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    I like Pritzker
     
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    In no particular order, Pete, Gavin and because I know it would totally cause a massive shit storm, Michelle Obama. :) (I'm kidding about that one).
     
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    I don't think Democrats lining up to endorse Harris means back room deal. It's been clear if Biden withdraws she is obvious choice.
     
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    Kameltoe trending on Twitter.

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    This is a serious question.

    What experience and qualifications does K Harris have in foreign relations?

    I can find where she attended a state funeral, such as in Japan. But what experience does Harris have dealing with live diplomats involving foreign relations?
     
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    I wonder if Harris is accepting resumes.

    I would make a great Vice President!
     

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