Scoot and Sharpe would have been the worst shooting backcourt in the NBA last season

Given you are saying they are basically the same stats wise when playing with Ayton I pick to keep the younger player that has unlimited upside, has the ability to be a far superior defender and is on a much smaller contract. It is a win, win, win. Thanks for making my point. Cheers!

 

Simons isn't half the point guard that Dame is. He's good at scoring but he's not a distributor.

 

You said he was inclined to get Ayton more involved and that’s just false!

Nice try, once again do some homework and fact checked please before you try to debate, you guys only end of looking silly in the end lol

 

Prove it is false. Just because you say it is false does not in fact make it false. I'll wait.

 

lmao, man, I already did. The stats of Ayton playing with Ant and Simons are the same!

And to make what you said even more false, Ayton played a good bit more games with Scoot than he did with Ant.

He played 42 games with Scoot, and only 27 with Ant.

So in MORE games played with Scoot, his stats are still the same as when he played with Ant.

That makes what you said even more silly now. A lot of what you guys say are just you guys "assuming" without any facts or stats to back it up...

Come better next time, thanks and have a good day.

 

<watches sheriff leave>

(spits) 'he really cleaned up this town.'

 

I said that I would rather have the younger player with unlimited upside, has the ability to be a far superior defender and is on a much smaller contract. What is wrong with that? You kinda conveniently forgot about that.

 

Fair enough, but I was talking about the original post that when you said he was inclined to get him more involved in the offense and you would love to see Ayton 20/12 nightly…you added extra things after that the following post.

One day I’ll be nice enough to post the site so you guys can double check things beforehand instead of assuming.

 

Last season, Ayton played 514 minutes with Anfernee Simons, with Scoot off the floor. He had a USG% of 21.6 in those minutes. He took 215 FGs in those 514 minutes. Ant had 96 assists in those minutes. He played 454 minutes with Scott, with Anfernee off the floor. He had a USG% of 24.2 in those minutes. He took 222 shots in those 454 minutes. Scoot had 102 assists in those minutes.

I adjusted for when they were on the floor with eachother, without the other guard, as that seemed far more relevant. obviously, one would have to break it down even further to get an entirely true picture of who was playing what. But that quick look shows Ayton with a higher usg%, and more FGAs per minute with Scoot. Which, to me, would imply getting him more involved.

 

Scoot is the better PG.

But we need to know who else was on the floor with those 2 guys for those stats to be valid IMO. If they were the same 3 guys in both instances then those stats are more telling. But of course, they weren't. I say this because in some of those end-of-season games when Ayton went for 30, the other starters (besides Scoot) were Rupert, Murray, and Walker. Of course, Ayton would be the focus on offense in that scenario.

 

Usage doesn’t imply Scoot got him
more involved, usage also depends on who is on the floor with Ayton and Scoot, and when Ayton had that good stretch of games, he was the main point of the offense many games while Grant and Any didn’t play

there was games towards the end of the where we had this kind of starting line up

Scoot
Murray
Rupert
Walker
Ayton

Ofcourse Ayton usage will go up with that line up lol.

 

Ah you beat me too it

 

But the reality is if you're talking about scoot and Ayton on the floor without Simons and Simons and Ayton on the floor without Scoot the other guys are probably going to be about the same. Roughly.

Either way. It's pretty clear that Ayton plays better with Scoot. As you say, Scoot is the better point guard.

 

You just can’t admit defeat on certain topics huh?
It’s definitely not pretty clear Ayton plays better with Scoot, nothing has shown that.

Keeping “assuming” with nothing to back it up.

 

Yeah, you are right. Here is one example

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401585581

 

It is clear when you watch them play. And the numbers back it up.

Scoot is a better PG than Simons. Simons is a better scorer than Scoot.

 

I have not read through the whole thread, but curious where they rank age wise for starting backcourts?

 

If someone has more assists in fewer minutes to a specific player, would you say he is more or less inclined to get the ball to that player than one who has less assists in more minutes?

 

wait until Cronin gives Anfernee his 5yr 200m extension. The complaint box will get overloaded within hours.

If the Blazers are touting Anfernee as their iconic player, they should at least pay him the right amount.

If the Blazers can't win, Anfernee has proved 3 years straight he can fake injuries like nobody's business. It's not easy finding star talent that will put the GM's draft wishlist above personal accolades.