<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Giants sign NFL Europe RB Flowers Click here to find out more!NFL.com wire reportsEAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (June 22, 2006) -- After failing four times to make the New York Jets, running back Little John Flowers was signed by the Giants.Flowers played this past spring in Europe with the Berlin Thunder, running for 283 yards and two touchdowns. He also caught 10 passes for 112 yards and another score.Flowers spent the 2002 season on the Jets' practice squad, and had two stints on the same squad the following year. Named for the character from Robin Hood, Flowers was also in the Jets' training camp the past two seasons.</div>http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NYG/9521285
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Johnny White Guy @ Jun 23 2006, 08:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Giants sign NFL Europe RB Flowers Click here to find out more!NFL.com wire reportsEAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (June 22, 2006) -- After failing four times to make the New York Jets, running back Little John Flowers was signed by the Giants.Flowers played this past spring in Europe with the Berlin Thunder, running for 283 yards and two touchdowns. He also caught 10 passes for 112 yards and another score.Flowers spent the 2002 season on the Jets' practice squad, and had two stints on the same squad the following year. Named for the character from Robin Hood, Flowers was also in the Jets' training camp the past two seasons.</div>http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NYG/9521285</div>I remember that guy...Little John Flowers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jun 23 2006, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Johnny White Guy @ Jun 23 2006, 08:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Named for the character from Robin Hood, Flowers was also in the Jets' training camp the past two seasons.</div>http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NYG/9521285</div>I remember that guy...Little John Flowers. </div>LJ Smith on the Eagles name also stands for Little John I think it's a pretty tight name.
nothing more than camp fodder, I cant see him making the team being that 3 running backs are a lock to make the team(Barber, Ward, Jacobs), and I think Chad Morton's spot on the team is probably safe as well. If he busts his ass and shows he can play special teams then he's got a shot.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GoGiants98 @ Jul 2 2006, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>nothing more than camp fodder, I cant see him making the team being that 3 running backs are a lock to make the team(Barber, Ward, Jacobs), and I think Chad Morton's spot on the team is probably safe as well. If he busts his ass and shows he can play special teams then he's got a shot.</div>He gave Derrick Ward a run for his money a few years ago when he was drafted by the Jets. I could see a competition. The guy is a 3rd RB at best though, just a JAG. Whats up with the Giants keep signing our backup runningbacks though?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jul 2 2006, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GoGiants98 @ Jul 2 2006, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>nothing more than camp fodder, I cant see him making the team being that 3 running backs are a lock to make the team(Barber, Ward, Jacobs), and I think Chad Morton's spot on the team is probably safe as well. If he busts his ass and shows he can play special teams then he's got a shot.</div>He gave Derrick Ward a run for his money a few years ago when he was drafted by the Jets. I could see a competition. The guy is a 3rd RB at best though, just a JAG. Whats up with the Giants keep signing our backup runningbacks though? </div>Derrick Ward has shown he's more than capable of being our #2, so I don't see any competition from Little John Flowers for anything except maybe the #4 RB Spot which isnt even really a RB spot but more like a special teams spot. Chad Morton spent time practicing with the wide recievers for most of last season because they felt like there was a better chance of him getting in as a WR on a WR screen than there was him ever seeing a down at RB
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Project @ Jul 3 2006, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We still need a back up for Tiki, he can't stay as a 4 quarter runningback.</div>says who? I've never seen someone take such good care of his body and work it so hard. Strongest pound for pound player in the NFL today. Brandon Jacobs showed what he can do in pre-season last year, a year of coaching and another training camp under his belt entering this season and he can probably take some pressure off of tiki. Derrick Ward did a good job spelling Tiki in non-short yardage situations as well. It's hard to argue with not taking Tiki out more...the guy never gets hurt(beyond some nicks and bruises at least), and he flatout gets it done no matter what the case is, blocking, running, catching, etc.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GoGiants98 @ Jul 4 2006, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jul 2 2006, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GoGiants98 @ Jul 2 2006, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>nothing more than camp fodder, I cant see him making the team being that 3 running backs are a lock to make the team(Barber, Ward, Jacobs), and I think Chad Morton's spot on the team is probably safe as well. If he busts his ass and shows he can play special teams then he's got a shot.</div>He gave Derrick Ward a run for his money a few years ago when he was drafted by the Jets. I could see a competition. The guy is a 3rd RB at best though, just a JAG. Whats up with the Giants keep signing our backup runningbacks though? </div>Derrick Ward has shown he's more than capable of being our #2, so I don't see any competition from Little John Flowers for anything except maybe the #4 RB Spot which isnt even really a RB spot but more like a special teams spot. Chad Morton spent time practicing with the wide recievers for most of last season because they felt like there was a better chance of him getting in as a WR on a WR screen than there was him ever seeing a down at RB</div>Tiki is a speed back on the wrong side of 30. Should he start regressing you guys are in trouble, I dont think he will this season, but its something to be concerned about. Derrick Ward and Jacobs are both ok for the occasional carries, but if Tiki either goes down for a long period of time or isnt effective can either of them pick up the slack? I dont think so.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GoGiants98 @ Jul 5 2006, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Derrick Ward has shown he's more than capable of being our #2, so I don't see any competition from Little John Flowers for anything except maybe the #4 RB Spot which isnt even really a RB spot but more like a special teams spot. Chad Morton spent time practicing with the wide recievers for most of last season because they felt like there was a better chance of him getting in as a WR on a WR screen than there was him ever seeing a down at RB</div>Funny, just funny.Shall I point out to you that Brandon Jacobs had 38 carries all season long and gained only 2.9 a carry. Don't say to me he is a goal line back because, although NFL.com says he fumbled once, we all know he fumbled at least 3 times on the goal line in 2 games (he probably fumbled more during the season). He should be a 3rd RB at best. Derrick Ward, wow yes, he could be your potential number 2 back. Gains 3.5 yards a carry on 35 carries, not bad at all. Ok so let's see, you'd rather have Brandon Jacobs that fumbles on the goal line consistently, than a man who can potentially be equivalent to Derrick Ward, who you even said yourself could be a number 2 back for you guys. Tough choice? Lose the ball on the goal line, or have a backup RB that gains 3.5 a carry and doesn't fumble.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jul 6 2006, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GoGiants98 @ Jul 5 2006, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Derrick Ward has shown he's more than capable of being our #2, so I don't see any competition from Little John Flowers for anything except maybe the #4 RB Spot which isnt even really a RB spot but more like a special teams spot. Chad Morton spent time practicing with the wide recievers for most of last season because they felt like there was a better chance of him getting in as a WR on a WR screen than there was him ever seeing a down at RB</div>Funny, just funny.Shall I point out to you that Brandon Jacobs had 38 carries all season long and gained only 2.9 a carry. Don't say to me he is a goal line back because, although NFL.com says he fumbled once, we all know he fumbled at least 3 times on the goal line in 2 games (he probably fumbled more during the season). He should be a 3rd RB at best. </div>Wait, Wait, Wait....Now you're trying to convince us that NFL.com and ESPN.com are both wrong and that he fumbled more. He fumbled ONE TIME, period. And the reason he averaged 2.6 yards per carry was because the only time he saw the field was on a 4th & 1 or on the Goal Line. Kinda hard to break a long run from the one yard line, eh?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jul 6 2006, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GoGiants98 @ Jul 5 2006, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Derrick Ward has shown he's more than capable of being our #2, so I don't see any competition from Little John Flowers for anything except maybe the #4 RB Spot which isnt even really a RB spot but more like a special teams spot. Chad Morton spent time practicing with the wide recievers for most of last season because they felt like there was a better chance of him getting in as a WR on a WR screen than there was him ever seeing a down at RB</div>Funny, just funny.Shall I point out to you that Brandon Jacobs had 38 carries all season long and gained only 2.9 a carry. Don't say to me he is a goal line back because, although NFL.com says he fumbled once, we all know he fumbled at least 3 times on the goal line in 2 games (he probably fumbled more during the season). He should be a 3rd RB at best. Derrick Ward, wow yes, he could be your potential number 2 back. Gains 3.5 yards a carry on 35 carries, not bad at all. Ok so let's see, you'd rather have Brandon Jacobs that fumbles on the goal line consistently, than a man who can potentially be equivalent to Derrick Ward, who you even said yourself could be a number 2 back for you guys. Tough choice? Lose the ball on the goal line, or have a backup RB that gains 3.5 a carry and doesn't fumble.</div>how many teams really have a consistant back-up? I know its becoming a 2 running back league, but what do you expect from a back-up? And funny? What's funny is you citing the stats of what were mostly if not all goalline short yardage carries to say that Jacobs is a 3rd RB at best. I don't like to put much stock in pre-season carries, or highlight films, but check out his pre-season stats, and these videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUsWASF06tchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUtgKCONhic
