Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Or maybe they should have. Who is to say? They needed to rescue the people that Ukraine was attacking. Maybe they needed to stand up to the US and NATO supporting violent and illegal coups. The Ukraine government could scarcely be called "legit" anyway, the transfer of power was against their own constitution.
     
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    I don't know, but here is a new one. US blew it up.
     
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    No. That's a lie. Ukraine has been defending itself. Russia invaded in 2014 and Ukraine has been defending itself ever since.

    Russia should not have invaded.
     
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    He threatened to block it. It has been blocked with the help of Germany since Russia's full invasion of Ukraine.

    The US wouldn't gain anything by blowing it up.
     
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    What do you mean "block it"? It was completed in Sep 2021. What on earth do you honestly think this exchange made? He all but said "we will blow it up". The US also had no jurisdiction over it anyway. Though we are selling much more expensive natural gas to Europe now.

    This is another example of how stupid many of these "fact checks" are. "Ahh, he didn't say 'we will blow it up' Fact Check: False".
     
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    Crimea celebrated this as well. Over 90% wanted to join Russia. There were no shots fired, no protests. They liberated Crimea.
     
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    It wasn't in use. Havent you ever had a drain plugged so water wouldn't flow through?

    It was blocked by the US in cooperation with Germany the day of Russia's full invasion of Ukraine.
     
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    That is an absolute lie.
     
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    How so? There was a referendum and the people voted. They were tired of getting bombed by their own country. Not to mention the current government in Ukraine is the result of a US-backed coup and is basically illegitimate by every metric we use to judge other ‘bad guy’ countries.
     
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    And then it was blown up. You forgot that part.
     
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    I didn't forget about it. The US had no need to blow it up. They already shut it down.

    That doesn't mean the US didn't blow it up, but it definitely shows a lack of motive.
     
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    Right, a Russian referendum under Putin.

    Because Putin actually wins with over 90% of the vote in Russia. Saddam Hussein was also very popular in Iraq.
     
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    It never ceases to amaze me that some posters take exactly the same line as a country that keeps invading other countries under false pretenses, shuts down all dissent in their country and assasinates those who keep speaking out.
     
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    Literally the United States lol.
     
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    Yikes. Bad example bud. Are you guys just throwing me bones on purpose? I don’t get it.
     
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    When your talking points revert back to Bush-era boogeyman propaganda i think the plot has been lost.
     
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    It's not a bad example, kid. Authoritarians fake democracy.
     
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    You just love to support authoritarians invading their peaceful neighbors, don't you?
     
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    There is a report Ukraine has destroyed the major bridge into the Kursk area. There are 3 other bridges. But dropping this one causes the Russians the most problems.

    It appears Ukraine is isolating the land they hold, creating natural barriers.

    Yet another smart move by Ukraine, who are thinking 4 steps ahead of the Russians.
     
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