Rumor What's going on in Portland?

You made your post before I said that it went down or at least leveled off.

 

Forgive me if this has been posted before.

 

There is more to New York City than just Manhattan.

 

Point is that they are seeing increased homelessness as well. They also have much harsher winters, so it's not as safe of a place to be homeless as Portland.

 

Daaaammmmnnnn.........The HCP and I make simple factual statements about how much the atmosphere in downtown Portland has improved and we get a whole discussion about how it all still sucks and an east coast city gets dragged into the unnecessary discussion. John and I were just enjoying some relatively good news for a change and the Debbie Downers have to rain on the parade......only on SC2......

 

Saw this this morning, seemed to fit in to this discussion:
https://www.wweek.com/news/city/202...to-take-a-bleak-view-of-the-citys-trajectory/

 

Suburbanites are fearful creatures. We should start making fun of them again rather than try to make a city conform to their skewed view of propriety. Fuck, if you could handle the city you’d live in the city. There’s a shake shack in Beaverton; go there if you want a burger.

 

ihh there isnt a Dantes or roseland or crustal ballroom there


What a weird mindset that is. If you don't like it, fuck off and go back to the suburbs.

Sorry some of you can't handle having reality reminders that counter this false picture you are painting.
Truth hurts i guess.

lol.

 

A private equity firm saved beloved Portland restaurants from bankruptcy. Then it stopped paying its bills

 

Almost 40 year veteran suburbanite here. I grew up in inner SEP and lived there for awhile as an adult also. From the time we moved to the 'burbs until about 6-7 years ago my wife and I went into Portland several times a week to eat and knock around. Great times. But that Portland is gone and the jury is still out as to whether it's gonna come all the way back or not. You also need to understand the that the Portland YOU grew up in and the Portland us older folks grew up in were two very different places. The PDX area has grown exponentially and the traffic in and out of Portland proper sucks a major hoagie. It isn't worth the time, effort or gas. The City of Portland has pushed population density to the max, while deliberately eliminating parking options so as to push people into using a substandard and inefficient transit system (that truly does not serve the suburbs well at all). The city government has done little if anything positive (until lately) about the homeless problem, and regardless of reason, the city in general is dirty and run down (far more than it ever was). Portland east of 82nd is (and always has been) the land that Portland forgot (and doesn't ever want to remember). The pandemic forced a lot of great businesses to close. The list goes on. I'm a Portland native and I reserve the right to complain about it because it's a problem that should never have happened....and one that should have been fixed more than a few years ago. I'm just glad to see SOME improvement after too many years of them having their thumbs up their asses.

Diss the suburbs all you want, but why does the severity of the homeless problem literally (and so very obviously) disappear at the city limits? Why is the city so filthy everywhere one looks? Seriously Do you spend any time in the 'burbs at all?? Are we supposed to feel guilty if our little suburban outposts are clean, well paved, have excellent public services, are generally graffiti free, and have lower crime rates than Portland? The 'burbs are thriving because we aren't Portland, nor do we want to be. So because we are sad, disgusted, amused, angry or whatever about the current state of the Portland that we grew up in, we're "fearful creatures". You don't have any more "ownership" of that city than anyone else, and our opinions of it are at least as valid as yours. I love Portland and always will, but you need to seriously get over your superior "Urban attitude". It has no foundation.

 

Portland is not your theme park.

I’ve lived in the suburbs, and I’ve lived in the city. The suburbs offer just as much shopping and commerce as the city does, even the same stores; so why go to the city? Is it because the suburbs leave you feeling hollow and wanting? Do you just want to complain about the filth and homeless? Why do you go to the city when you don’t want to engage with the reality of it being a city?

Why complain about the city if you don’t want to be there and you don’t want to visit and you don’t care about it? Why are you bitching about it?

What is your objective?

 

The wife and I are having dinner downtown tonight and for a sunset walk along the river. Hope we survive.

 

Seriously, what is everyone’s objective when they whine and moan and complain about Portland? You are not actually concerned, or you’d want to do something. You’re not trying to alert people; everyone in Oregon who doesn’t live in Portland knows all about it already.

Suburbanite opinions about Portland are just about as valuable as cold farts, and equally as welcome.

 

Hope the roving rape gangs of homeless graffiti artists don’t murder you for your shoes or whatever it is they think happens here.

 

This is where we will be on Thursday.
First Thursdays are fantastic.

 

Where did you ever come up with the weird idea that Portland was my (or anyone else's) "theme park"? And no, the suburbs do not offer as much shopping or commerce as the city does, proportionally or otherwise. Another strange claim. My particular suburb is a culinary wasteland (and always has been) which is one of the main reasons we would go into Portland. No, the suburbs don't make me feel "hollow and wanting" (hyperbalize much?) unless it pertains to physical hunger. And fortunately, other suburbanites are tired of dealing with the traffic and other issues, and more than a few of these 'burbs are becoming small food meccas (Beaverton comes to mind). I complain about the filth and homeless because I am still a Portland property owner, and even if I wasn't, there is no real good excuse for it. It boils down to a lack of will and civic pride. And as I thought I made generally clear at the beginning of my missive, I rarely go into Portland anymore because I actually (and honestly) do not "want to engage with the reality of it being a city" that doesn't take pride in itself. Or makes an effort to present it's best face. You just want to diss the suburbs because it makes you feel superior. I know, been there, done it, outgrew it......

 

This is also a place we’ll go walk with the dogs. Peninsula Park Rose Garden

 

Okay, I'll engage with you honestly: Why'd you choose to live there?