"Roberts thought his arguments would soar above politics, persuade the public, and stand the test of time."
Roberts and those other Justices legacies will be forever stained. History will not look kindly upon them.
Glad the sentencing was put off til after the election. Let him lose first, then put him behind bars.
Rudy Giuliani disbarred in D.C., months after disbarment in New York https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rudy-giuliani-disbarred-washington-dc/
Bombshell special counsel filing includes new allegations of Trump's 'increasingly desperate' efforts to overturn election Trump privately described claims of voter fraud as "crazy," the filing says. Special counsel Jack Smith has outlined new details of former President Donald Trump and his allies' sweeping and "increasingly desperate" efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, in a blockbuster court filing Wednesday aimed at defending Smith's prosecution of Trump following the Supreme Court's July immunity ruling. Trump intentionally lied to the public, state election officials, and his own vice president in an effort to cling to power after losing the election, while privately describing some of the claims of election fraud as "crazy," prosecutors alleged in the 165-page filing. "When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office," the filing said. "With private co-conspirators, the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost." When Trump's effort to overturn the election through lawsuits and fraudulent electors failed to change the outcome of the election, prosecutors allege that the former president fomented violence, with prosecutors describing Trump as directly responsible for "the tinderbox that he purposely ignited on January 6." "The defendant also knew that he had only one last hope to prevent Biden's certification as President: the large and angry crowd standing in front of him. So for more than an hour, the defendant delivered a speech designed to inflame his supporters and motivate them to march to the Capitol," Smith wrote. The lengthy filing -- which includes an 80-page summary of the evidence gathered by investigators -- outlines multiple instances in which Trump allegedly heard from advisers who disproved his allegations, yet continued to spread his claims of outcome-determinative voter fraud, prosecutors said. "It doesn't matter if you won or lost the election. You still have to fight like hell," Trump allegedly told members of his family following the 2020 election, the filing said. According to prosecutors, Trump "laid the groundwork for his crimes well before" Election Day, including by sowing doubt among his supporters and planning to declare victory immediately, despite multiple advisers telling him that the results were unlikely to be finalized on Election Day. Prosecutors allege that Trump and his allies "sought to create chaos" at polling places -- including one instance when a campaign employee encouraged a colleague to "make them riot" at an ongoing vote count in Detroit -- which the former president later used to support his claims of voter fraud. "The throughline of these efforts was deceit: the defendant's and co-conspirators' knowingly false claims of election fraud," the filing said. In addition to outlining the instances when Trump was directly corrected about his allegations of voter fraud, the filing said Trump privately called allegations of voter fraud made by his lawyer Sidney Powell as "crazy" -- despite employing similar arguments to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election, prosecutors allege. Trump last year pleaded not guilty to federal charges of undertaking a "criminal scheme" to overturn the results of the 2020 election in order to remain in power. Wednesday's filing comes at a pivotal moment in the case, as U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan is set to begin considering whether any of the allegations included in the government's case are protected by presidential immunity after the Supreme Court ruled in a blockbuster decision that Trump is entitled to immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts undertaken while in office. In August, Smith filed a pared-down indictment that removed allegations likely to have been considered official acts -- including Trump's interactions with Justice Department officials to interfere with the election -- while still charging the former president with the same four criminal counts he originally faced. Last week, Smith filed a sealed brief seeking to justify the superseding indictment, then sought to file a redacted version for public release. Trump's lawyers opposed Wednesday's lengthy filing -- which they described as "tantamount to a premature and improper Special Counsel report" -- and argued that public release of the allegations would improperly influence the election and violate Department of Justice policies. Judge Chutkan -- who has long stated that the election does not play a factor in her decision making -- ordered the filing be publicly released Wednesday. In justifying his case against Trump, Smith alleged that Trump acted as an office-seeker rather than an officeholder when he committed crimes, and that he "must stand trial for his private crimes as would any other citizen." "Although the defendant was the incumbent President during the charged conspiracies, his scheme was fundamentally a private one," Wednesday's filing said. https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=114409494
In his conversation with Pence when Trump tried unsuccessfully to get Pence to refuse to certify the election, Trump's last words to Pence: "You're too honest". Any jury would hear that as admission of crime.
It will force the Supreme Court to further define a very shitty and vague Presidents are Immune ruling.
Aide: There will be violence if we keep doing this Trump: “Make them riot. Do it.” Aide: We don’t have evidence of voter fraud Trump: “The details don’t matter.” Aide: VP Pence has been moved to a secure location Trump: “So what?”
