Rasheed is actually the only clear starter. Porter was a better defender than Dame, and Roy was more clutch than Drexler. Walton wasn't healthy enough.
I think part of the premium paid for Deni was the fact that Brogdon, a small, was traded for Deni, the big. Many here want to trade Ant for a big. They will be giving up more than just Ant unless they take future assets and salary ballast.
the problem is that the theory doesn't survive contact with reality for example, Grant to the Lakers: because of their future pick situation, there's only one way the Lakers could send out two 1st's: their 2029 + 2031 first's, both unprotected. They might do that for a Giannis, or a Jokic, or a Tatum. But they would never do that for an Ingram or a Grant. That, combined with their 2nd apron issue has always made me believe the Grant-->LA possibility was remote. And after the Lakers, I have a real hard time seeing any team trade two pretty certain first's for a player at Grant's level. I'm probably forgetting a trade or two, but about the only team willing to trade two first round picks for players at the Grant/RoCo/Avdija level is Portland. All that's not to say it can't happen, but I won't believe it's a practical idea until the impossible becomes possible
Absolutely. the flipside is many here thought Brogdon would fetch two firsts. Instead, we had to give up to firsts to offload him. If Brogdon was our best asset last year, and we had to include two firsts to get a big back, then Ant is no where near worth that.
If Joe could have traded Ant for Deni he would have, but their value isn't even close. Deni is a championship-type player. Ant is MAYBE a 6th man on a mediocre team. If Joe could have given one 1st and Ant for Deni he would have. Unfortunately, we see that Ant's value isn't as high as we'd like.
While I don't know if all of that is necessarily true, I can say that given the choice, I certainly would have preferred to have kept Brogdon over Ant.
That's what Washington got for Deni. I think that's the point he is making, which is that Deni already has proven to have more trade value than Ant.
This, plus Brogdon is injury prone and his play will start to dimmish from here on out each year. Plus I think people are really missing that Brodgon could have just walked for nothing after this season. Ant has two years left. People don't factor in the way the salary cap is now and the new CBA, expiring contracts are once again becoming very attractive for teams looking to get under the cap or take on less risk being tied up in a contract that has years on it. The Wizards are renting Brodgon for one year and they using his salary to clear more cap space for them. So if Ant has the same or better year this year than last, next off season he will be a expiring contract and still a solid young player, so when you look at it from that standpoint, it's crazy to say Ant's value will never get any higher. Just having a expiring contract next off season in itself will be more attractive for teams imo
Brogdon had no value. The worst team in the league took him because it was salary filler. He would have made a better and more willing 6th man than Ant.
If Malcolm had no value and Joe got a good young player in Deni for him, then Joe got what he wanted. I like Brogdon, and I agree he would have been a good 6th man for us ....for a year.
yeah. I think the Blazers made a good trade to land Avdija. But there is no doubt they did pay a fairly high price sending out two first's. Portland paid a premium but they were trading for the highest valued position in the NBA: a wing. And not only is Avdija a wing, he's a wing that has demonstrated a broad skillset of highly valued talents. A ball-handler who can lead a fast break and facilitate half-court sets. A very good rebounder for his position who shot over 37% on three's last season. And he did all that while demonstrating some solid and versatile defense. In other words he checks all of the valuable boxes: wing + 2-way + 3&D. granted, this was all at a lower level on a bad team, but still, he had value and the trade reflected that there is no way an undersized, no-defense tweener guard has that much value around the league. Simons is not a wing because of his size; he's not a 2-way player; he's not 3&D. The boxes he doesn't check may weigh more than those he does
For one season and we lose him for nothing? Plus no telling how many games he would have played since he is injury prone. We got Deni him, I think he got value for him imo considering we would have gotten nothing for him after this season.
If Ant is our 'best player' with that atrocious defense, no wonder we are projected to be where we are. Ant's defense gives YMCA 6' and under leagues hope.
I mean... this isn't exactly breaking news. College coaches are little tyrants. They have all the power. They can scream at their kids and they have a much shorter season. Most NBA coaches don't scream at their players. And the NBA is a marathon. It's not a sprint. And...... we're not exactly trying to win right now. We don't want anyone getting hurt that we want to trade.
WOW! “value isn’t even close”…… “mediocre team’s 6th man”…..”Deni is a CHAMPIONSHIP-TYPE PLAYER”……WOW! HOLY SHIT!
