Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. beast blazer

    beast blazer Well-Known Member

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    This report was written by Frédéric Mousseau. Someone who ironically is uses as the source for "fact checks" saying the assertions of western land grabs in Ukraine is false. You think we're fighting in Ukraine for charity...
    "The report details how Western aid has been conditioned to a drastic structural adjustment program,
    which includes austerity measures, cuts in social safety nets, and the privatization of key sectors of
    the economy. A central condition has been the creation of a land market, put into law in 2020 under
    President Zelenskyy, despite opposition from a majority of Ukrainians fearing that it will exacerbate
    corruption in the agricultural sector and reinforce its control by powerful interests."

    https://www.oaklandinstitute.org/si.../files/takeover-ukraine-agricultural-land.pdf

    You can also see how the West wanted to open up Ukraine for their own explotation, which is why they ousted Yanykovich in 2014 after he rejected a deal with the EU
    https://theecologist.org/2014/sep/11/ukraine-opens-monsanto-land-grabs-and-gmos
     
  2. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    ‘Drunk’ colonel sending troops to their deaths sparks Russian TV row

    A Kremlin propaganda ploy to deflect criticism away from a “drunk” front-line commander renowned for ordering soldiers on suicide missions has backfired.

    Vladimir Solovyov, the host of state TV Rossiya-One’s daily chat show, last month described soldiers’ widows as liars for accusing Col Alexei Ksenofontov of being drunk and then sending their husbands to their deaths.

    He told his audience that he personally knew Col Ksenofontov, who was made a “Hero of Russia” in April.

    “Alexei is a normal commander, a thinking commander capable of competently preparing and carrying out a task,” he said.

    “They have slandered a hero.”

    But instead of silencing the mourning women, Mr Solovyov’s intervention has heaped more embarrassment onto the Kremlin by triggering new accusations and given ordinary Russians a rare glimpse of the medieval techniques used by their military commanders.

    Astra, the Russian opposition Telegram news channel that published the original complaints, said it had received dozens of messages in the past few weeks from angry women.

    “After his [show], dozens of relatives of the military contacted the editorial office responding to Solovyov,” it said this week, before posting several more accusations on its Telegram channel.

    Some of these criticisms were also posted directly on social media channels.

    One woman wrote on the Kremlin-controlled VK social media website that she wanted Col Ksenofontov, whose call sign is “Tiger”, to die as her husband had.

    “Solovyov, interview all of us. Look how many women are cursing your Ksenofontov. Talk to the women who wish death to the Tiger,” she wrote.

    Criticising the Russian army comes at great risk for people living in Russia. Police arrest people for the slightest indiscretion and charge them with “discrediting the Russian army”, which carries a prison sentence.

    Mothers and wives of soldiers in Russia were considered to have some leeway for criticising the government, but earlier this year, police detained several women and have now classified a group that had pushed for men mobilised into the army in 2022 to be given a break as a “foreign agent”. This is a derogatory term and makes it far harder for the group to operate.

    Even so, in new comments published this week by Astra, Alina Bolvinova described how a drunk Col Ksenofontov had ordered her husband on a suicide mission near the town of Avdiivka in February without ammunition for his rifle.

    “They were sent out as cannon fodder,” she said. “Can a mentally healthy person give such orders? A person who does not enjoy killing. I think not.”

    The Kremlin has deployed mass infantry tactics over the past few months to push forward its front line, suffering more than 1,000 casualties every day.

    The Russian military leadership has been heavily criticised throughout the war for its barbaric methods.

    Last month, two Russian drone operators posted a video accusing their commander of ordering them on a suicide mission in revenge for an argument. Another video showed an enraged Russian commander punching young soldiers in the face.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ar-AA1rI840
     
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  3. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, I think you have a point there. When it comes to great foreign policy minds, who should I turn to? The professionals who work at the State department, who actually have experience, inside knowledge, and responsibility for foreign affairs, or an internet crank who eagerly promotes propaganda from hostile nations?

    Tough decision.

    That's not to say that the State Dept. always gets it right - far from it. But I do align more with their worldview than Putin's. YMMV.

    barfo
     
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  5. UKRAINEFAN

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    he is such a snively little coward.
     
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    Trump's peace plan. Russia keeps areas it controls. Ukraine agrees to not join NATO. In other words, surrender.
     
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  7. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    I'd say he has the most punchable face in Congress but then we'd have to factor in Jordan, Comer, Cruz ad nauseum, and Johnson would be further down the line. But then, his consistently smarmy attitude keeps moving him back up the list.....So many morons, so many stupid voters......it's like larger version of Whack A Mole.......
     
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    That’s how losing works.
     
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  9. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So, I guess we'll keep this thread, and you'll agree not to join NATO.

    barfo
     
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  10. beast blazer

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    We should have never left Vietnam, or Iraq, or Afghanistan...

    They got you programmed good.
     
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  11. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Your analogies need work. We aren't in Ukraine, so it's not a question of whether we should leave or not.

    barfo
     
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    I assumed he was talking about the Rooskies. Weren’t they “in” all of those places for periods of time in their usual “helpful” capacities?
     
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  13. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Oh, right. I forgot who I was talking to. Of course 'we' would have meant Russia.

    barfo
     
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    Russia is releasing their secret weapon.

     
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    Bye, Felicia.
     
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    See: Proxy war.
     
  18. barfo

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    See: boots not on the ground. See: Americans not dying (aside from a few mercenaries/idiots).

    barfo
     
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    Is Steven Seagal considered a mercenary or just an idiot?
     
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    Oh but we are in Ukraine, who do you think facilitates the launching of long range precision missiles? Our funding, and our meddling is what has caused it to continue. Now we're getting the same "no surrender" story for a losing conflict. You all don't realize how you've turned into Neocons.

    I saw this coming and got off this wagon years ago.
     
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