Politics Official 2024 Presidential Election Thread

Trump said Obama is going to vote for him because Harris is a "low IQ person".

He is deeper and deeper in dementia. Seriously needs hospitalization.

Except there is no room in hospitals because all the space is given to migrants.

 

You're really getting out there buddy. The fact is, it's the governors who have the authority over schools and businesses in their states. Not Trump. Yet you're trying to argue that's Trump's fault when he was actually advocating for less restrictions?

You people have this insane need to blame everything on Trump. Just listen to yourself, you're totally irrational.

And what's more ironic, is you folks talk about how afraid you are Trump was going to be a dictator, yet complain that he wasn't dicatorial enough during covid.

It's like setting your house on fire on election night then putting it out once Biden is elected, then thanking Biden for rescuing your house. Only the reality is worse, because more fires, more covid, happened under Biden. I don't even blame him for that, because I understand the real underlying causes.

 

Lol

 

Pffft. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

"The states are in control of things when it benefits us but not when it doesn't. If states' rights reveal my guy as an utter nitwit, then it doesn't count." What kind of argument is that.

Wait, let me take this apart piece by piece. This will be fun.

COVID already was spreading though the country when Biden took over. Surely you can't be saying that if Biden took office someone that already had COVID or lived in an environment where COVID was running rampant and died that that was on Biden?

Actually, I could see you doing that, but it'd be the ultimate childish argument.

Mark ... is your name "Mark," BTW? You seem like a mark. Do you know what states suffered the most during COVID? It was RED STATES. More per capita infections. More per capita deaths.

I'd tell you they suffered more economically, but the red states already are by and large economic takers in the United States economically. The blue states support them more through the federal government and taxation.

And states' rights only applies to schools and businesses? Where the heck do you get that? Project 2025? Have you ever heard of the Department of Education?

For the record, the big motivator for the American right regarding states' rights always has been personhood. You know, slavery? Reproductive care? Those are the biggest states' rights issues.

This is the second time I've seen you used the burning house analogy, and it still has never been applicable. In both the case of the Afghan withdraw and COVID, our problems didn't start with the election. Our problems started with Trump.

Trump abandoned the Afghan government, negotiated solely with the Taliban, drew down our troops to unmanageable levels and never met with Biden during the transition of power to tell them what to expect ... because Trump was too busy fighting the transition of power and planning to incite an attack on the Capitol.

In the case of COVID, Trump pushed quack remedies. He undermined the attempts of his own immunologist to give people the best ways to mitigate.

For heaven's sake, he had people not wearing masks because they thought it was a sign or either being weak or being a liberal and making fun of people that did wear masks. Of course, again, I take you back to the unequal death rate of red states and Republicans from COVID as opposed to blue states and Democrats to show you how that worked out.

Instead of ever developing a good plan for the entire country and pulling us together, Trump had everyone doubting the experts and each other. Consequently, our country sustained a higher percentage of deaths and its economy contracted more than similar nations.

When Biden took over, that all swung hard the other way. By your reasoning, BTW, that shouldn't have happened. Biden was dealing with the exact same issues that Trump was, that Trump handed him ... and yet here's our economy, better than the rest of the world.

You really need to sit out these conversations, Mark. You aren't well-equipped for adult discussions.

 

The way he's so rumpled up, it looks like a fascist Lewis Black.

 

Weekend Update: Trump Agrees to Fox News Town Hall with All-Women Audience

 

Spent morning precinct walking. Telling myself no one ever died of sore feet.

 

Fear is the most ancient emotion. Fear predates humans, primates, even mammals. Fear is adaptive in the wild; an animal notes a threat, feels fear, runs or flies away. Animals that respond to threats with fear are more likely to survive and leave offspring than those who don't.*

Fear is also harmful. In human societies it causes hatred of anyone seen as other. It excuses anything done to those others up to and including mass murder.

Stupid and demented, Trump has a feral understanding of the power of fear. He doesn't talk about economy much. It's all fear of immigrants. They are coming to your community, even your home. They are diseased, have bad genes, take over schools and hospitals so no room for real Americans, they attack young girls in Walmart (stores full of people with cell phones but no one captured such an attack). They steal, rape, murder and eat your pets. He has nothing to sell but fear and sadly it's working. He has erased Harris lead.

*Irrelevant evolutionary fact. Toxoplasma gondii can only reproduce in cats' intestinal tracts. When cats pass waste outdoors they shed Toxoplasma and then cover their waste. Seedlings sprout. Mice eat seedlings and become infected. Toxoplasma infection alters mice brain chemistry so they lose their fear of cats. Instead of running away when they scent a cat, they sit there. Cat eats mouse, Toxoplasma take up residence in intestinal tract and cycle resumes. Cat is unaffected. They are just carriers. Fear saves mice lives. Fear can destroy the country.

 

Kamala's really bad at answering questions ... oh, wait, that's Trump.

 

Trump can’t vote huh?

 

He never learned how, apparently ....

 

What sucks about how presidential elections are held is not just that, in a country of 300 million, electoral college is decided by less than 50,000, but that they also tend to be least engaged. Those who have been following election and keep up with news aren't undecided. It's this who wonder, should I stick with familiar guy? Could I vote for a woman? Who will decide.

 

Not sure how can be a dead heat?

 

According to some (and I personally believe it), MAGAts are "flooding the zone" with bogus or ginned up polls (as "political Prisoner" Steve Bannon promised they would) to make the undecideds and under engaged Democrats believe that Trump is going to win so there is no use in voting, especially in the swing states. And too many people are buying this shit. The only poll I'm going to believe is the one that comes out after all the votes have been counted. And even then Republican shenanigans will still cloud the issue.

 

Everyone just needs to vote

 

The video actually layed it out pretty well, despite being MSNBC.