Re: Redskins WRs among the NFL's elite <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ Jul 7 2006, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah but then when you look at the TALLER or HEAVIER WRs, they just aren't burners like these guys. It's hard to find someone with both the speed and the perfect physique (T.O.).I think I speek for everyone when I say I'd rather have a burner at WR.</div>No, but its nice to have someone who is 6'4, can go over the middle on a quick slant or something and take the beating from the linebackers for a first down. It's nice to have someone who is 6'4 who can catch the fade routes in the back of the endzone. Ect.
Re: Redskins WRs among the NFL's elite Moss did a lot of slant routes last year actually. And Thrash and Cooley are tough up the middle too. Once again, if the defense focuses on us passing to the outside, PORTIS TIME BABY!
Re: Redskins WRs among the NFL's elite <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jul 7 2006, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Find me one poster who said that Brandon Lloyd had top 10 hands in SF</div>I cant find which thread it was that we were talking about Brandon Lloyd and how many drops he had last year but here's a different player statistics source then the one you posted and it says he only had 4 dropped balls in 2005. http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/player...=6460&Submit=GoScroll to the very bottom
Re: Redskins WRs among the NFL's elite <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Jul 7 2006, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You should see how happy Lloyd is with Campbell and Brunell... you should see...Umm... when he wasn't injured hed had like 120 tackles and like 5 sacks.He will play like a LB for us... that's what we brough him in for. We will use him stuff the middle of the field and stop the run.We didn't bring Randle El in to catch the ball. Gibbs likes pass plays a lot and so does Saunders. With Portis passing the ball effectively, the sigining of Randle El was huge. And he is the best punt retruner. Also, one of the fastest receivers, great for screens, which Saunders loves.Thrash 6ftLloyd 6ft... can jump like FitzgeraldJacobs 6ftCooley 6ftFauria 6ftSellers 6ftAnd Moss has insane hops.</div>Of course Lloyd is happy. He got traded from one of the worst teams in the NFL to one of the most promising teams next year. Youre going to use Archuleta more like a LB? You do know theyre in the NFC east now right. So you're going to leave a lot of very good wr's with one on one coverage. Guys like PLax, TO, Toomer, etc. Moss, Jacobs, Lloyd, etc can't catch a ball down the middle and hang on after they get drilled by the opposing safety's and Lb's.
Re: Redskins WRs among the NFL's elite <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ Jul 7 2006, 11:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah but then when you look at the TALLER or HEAVIER WRs, they just aren't burners like these guys. It's hard to find someone with both the speed and the perfect physique (T.O.).I think I speek for everyone when I say I'd rather have a burner at WR.</div>Taller and Heavier WR's are more versatile. Like drop said they're better possession WR's. They can catch more balls in the endzone. They can take hits and give hits to get open. They can also catch more jumpballs. Big WR's are also better blockers which helps the running game also. I would prefer a Tall and Heavy WR.
Re: Redskins WRs among the NFL's elite What you dont understand is that's not how our offense works man, we don't need bigger and taller wide recievers because we use our speedsters and Portis to get us close to the red zone (which works), and once we are there we just go to guys like Sellers and Cooley, we don't need a big heavy tall WR to haul em in. Plus Fauria is a big dude and got his share of TDs with the Patriots in the redzone, especially in '02.
Re: Redskins WRs among the NFL's elite <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ Aug 3 2006, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What you dont understand is that's not how our offense works man, we don't need bigger and taller wide recievers because we use our speedsters and Portis to get us close to the red zone (which works), and once we are there we just go to guys like Sellers and Cooley, we don't need a big heavy tall WR to haul em in. Plus Fauria is a big dude and got his share of TDs with the Patriots in the redzone, especially in '02.</div>I understand. I thought you were comparing small wr's to big ones in General. Anyone can catch a TD from Brady. An example I believe is Vrabel. I can catch a TD from Brady lol. Still Fauria is a big target who can catch it in the endzone like you said.
Re: Redskins WRs among the NFL's elite <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Aug 3 2006, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Jul 7 2006, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You should see how happy Lloyd is with Campbell and Brunell... you should see...Umm... when he wasn't injured hed had like 120 tackles and like 5 sacks.He will play like a LB for us... that's what we brough him in for. We will use him stuff the middle of the field and stop the run.We didn't bring Randle El in to catch the ball. Gibbs likes pass plays a lot and so does Saunders. With Portis passing the ball effectively, the sigining of Randle El was huge. And he is the best punt retruner. Also, one of the fastest receivers, great for screens, which Saunders loves.Thrash 6ftLloyd 6ft... can jump like FitzgeraldJacobs 6ftCooley 6ftFauria 6ftSellers 6ftAnd Moss has insane hops.</div>Of course Lloyd is happy. He got traded from one of the worst teams in the NFL to one of the most promising teams next year. Youre going to use Archuleta more like a LB? You do know theyre in the NFC east now right. So you're going to leave a lot of very good wr's with one on one coverage. Guys like PLax, TO, Toomer, etc. Moss, Jacobs, Lloyd, etc can't catch a ball down the middle and hang on after they get drilled by the opposing safety's and Lb's.</div>Yes, Archuleta will play like a LB, and Marshall will play like a safety. And if we do cover TO, Plax, Toomer one on one, it will be Taylor owning them, not Springs or Rogers. Plus if we put Wright/Jimoh/Prioleau and a CB on one of those WRs, they'll be shut down that way too.We can't catch a ball down the middle? You kiddin? Well, maybe not Randle El, but all Moss and Lloyd pretty much do is slants... and hang on to 'em. Jacobs is tall, but he sucks. And Patten and Thrash are strong too.
Re: Redskins WRs among the NFL's elite <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Aug 3 2006, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ Aug 3 2006, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What you dont understand is that's not how our offense works man, we don't need bigger and taller wide recievers because we use our speedsters and Portis to get us close to the red zone (which works), and once we are there we just go to guys like Sellers and Cooley, we don't need a big heavy tall WR to haul em in. Plus Fauria is a big dude and got his share of TDs with the Patriots in the redzone, especially in '02.</div>I understand. I thought you were comparing small wr's to big ones in General. Anyone can catch a TD from Brady. An example I believe is Vrabel. I can catch a TD from Brady lol. Still Fauria is a big target who can catch it in the endzone like you said.</div>Fauria, Cooley, or Sellers will be open. One of them have to be. If not, Brunell/Campbell will run it in or lob it to Sean Taylor (who plays on goal line). Sellers had 8 TDs, Cooley had 7 in 9 starts. And don't forget we have a... well.. pretty good RB. Oh and... size doesn't matter. Skill and strength does.
