Politics Official 2024 Presidential Election Thread

I should be watching football right now, but I was between games and working out and happened to catch a great James Carville interview on CNN with one of their junior hosts who doesn't have enough of a name for herself yet to be a commodity and asked him great questions and let him answer.

He still thinks Harris is going to win.

 

I should be watching football right now, but I was between games and working out and happened to catch a great James Carville interview on CNN with one of their junior hosts who doesn't have enough of a name for herself yet to be a commodity and asked him great questions and let him answer.

He still thinks Harris is going to win.

 

early vote started in my state today. we were in and out in 30 mins even with a decent sized line.

still incredulous that this is apparently going to be close. the polls aren't capturing this correctly i believe.

who the hell wants this dumbass back in office?

 

Thought the same. He ended up playing for the Vikings. That's about as big a betrayal as a Packer can make.

 

Donald the Grouch.

 

I have a sign that says that I have the last five solicitors who knocked on my door hangin on meat hooks in my basement and I NEVER get bugged.

 

Fertilizer

 

It does make you wonder.

There were about 10 million more registered Democrats than Republicans in September.

There's a healthy quantity of never-Trumpers in that Republican number.

Harris has carved out about 4% of Trump's non-college white male voting base since 2020.

Young Americans just joining the voting ranks appear to heavily favor Harris.

Harris has what, doubled or more Trump's campaign donations and most of those are small, grassroots amounts.

Women's reproductive rights are on the ballot, literally in some of these states. There's the possibility of two or three SCOTUS seats coming up for the next president, which I have to be can't be lost on any Democrats from 2016.

Although the Dems haven't taken great advantage of messaging it, Trump was an abject failure in his first term, and even now is denigrating influential people and entire demographic groups while coming off as a deranged weirdo every time he speaks.

Sure, if Biden tanked a healthy economy after taking over for Trump, and admitting inflation hits people hard but is a product of economic recovery from COVID, I could see that being a major point for Trump, but that's not what happened. Plus, tariffs sounds great when you are 8 and don't understand macroeconomics and free trade. Sure, people don't like that Biden hasn't been able to rein in Netanyahu, but Trump's stance on the Middle East would be to wipe Palestinians off the map completely, so that shouldn't be a point in his favor. And I just don't think immigration is the kind of issue that affects the vast majority of Americans much.

Trump's mean-spirited, negative, speaks poorly, has a record of failure ....

I just look at all the above and it doesn't add up to this being as close as the polling indicates, and, I've said, polling has been very sketchy since 2016 and I think technology and individual attitudes on communication make it harder and harder to gather reliable numbers.

 

One other reason I don't trust polling anymore ...

The other day, CNN showed a poll that Taylor Swift's approval rating had dipped 18% since she endorsed Kamala Harris.

Now, I know this is unscientific, but there is no way 18% of Swift's core fans -- young women -- are picking Donald Trump over her. Just not happening.

That tells me intuitively that the people the pollsters reaching includes a large group of middle age and older men who think that Taylor is just waiting for a chance meeting with them to leave Travis Kelce.

 

unvetted/unrestricted immigration can not be the goal and that is what the Biden admin has implemented. and yes they did tighten it down 3 monthes ago, about time.

I believe in immigration, but letting anyone in and figuring out what to do with them 2 years later is not a plan.

 

You make a point i want to reiterate for the ignorant folk who don't understand.

Inflation now is a direct byproduct of Covid. Especially with increased corporate greed resulting from much of the orange idiot's policies to end his first term. The fact that we didn't end up in a full blown recession is a testament to the current administration's work.

This messaging is not easy to convey in the ten second attention span people have these days unfortunately.

I am hoping there are enough people in the general populous who have at least some critical thinking ability.

 

Also, as a progressive. Harris' push to the center of late to get more R voters to her tent is frustrating. She has all but abandoned mentioning climate change, and Medicare for all, and is much more careful about bringing up gun control issues.

But this is the step to take to avoid another Trump term, so I get it.

 

Exactly. The perfect needn't be the enemy of the good, especially in this situation. And Donald Trump is much less progressive than she is; I think Harris might have become more pragmatic politically but I think she'd at least have an ear to the progressive voices in America. Trump won't.

 

I agree this election is not as close as the polls indicate...........its all about the 7 swing states, total votes across the nation does not matter, it is the electrol college....race to 270.

 

I live in a swing state in the heart of Trump territory and the energy toward Trump is nothing compared to the past two presidential elections.

 

I don't think anybody wants "unvetted/unrestricted immigration". But if you have their ID and their picture, fingerprints, and DNA they are documented. They are a lower risk than the general population of the US.

Processing them quickly and accurately should be the goal.

If everybody who's not a criminal can be processed quickly and documented then the only people trying to sneak in will be the criminals. Then it would be fairly trivial to watch the rest of the border and collect the criminals.

The most important part of that would be processing the people who enter legally through the checkpoints quickly and efficiently.

Taking a couple years to determine if they can stay long term seems irrelevant to me.

*Edit*
In fact, taking some time lets you evaluate if they will be able to follow the law and find employment. That seems like valuable information to have before making that decision...

 

A person calling himself Black Insurrectionist X trended on Xitter. MAGA. Spread conspiracy theories about Harris and Walz, including story Walz sexually molested black gay high school student when he was teaching. Story traced to Russian troll farm. Amassed 300,000 readers and praise from Trump.

Turns out Black Insurrectionist X is a white guy from upstate New York. Who incidentally owes $6 million in back taxes.