Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

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    Victim uses firearm to stop knife attack in North Haven

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    NORTH HAVEN, Conn. (News 8 - WTNH) — A man was arrested after threatening someone with a knife in a parking lot on Thursday, police said.

    Police said at around 11:35 a.m., Obadiah Claud, 45, charged the victim with a knife and the victim took out his legally possessed gun to try to stop the attack.

    Claud fled in his car when the victim took out the gun, police said.

    U.S. Marshals, SWAT team arrest man in Bristol
    Detectives found Claud’s car in West Haven and arrested him at a local business nearby.

    Claud was charged with threatening in the second degree, illegal possession of a deadly weapon, and breach of peace in the second degree.

    According to police, this was not a random incident and there is no threat to the public.

    Claud is being held on a $50,000 bond.
     
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    One man arrested Saturday after allegedly attempting to hit three people with his car

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    A Columbus man was arrested early Saturday morning on the East Side for allegedly trying to run over three people with his car following an argument, according to Columbus Police.

    The argument took place at a home in the 1800 block of Noe Bixby Road around 2 a.m. According to a Columbus Police report, Alexander Oglesby, 32, of the Northeast Side, drove his car onto the home's lawn in an attempt to hit three people.

    One of the three shot at Oglesby in self-defense and struck him, according to police. Oglesby was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.

    Oglesby was charged with three counts of felonious assault and is booked at the Franklin County Jail.
     
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    Damn, here we go again.
     
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    Me and my family will take our chances with getting hit by a car any day and every day.
     
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    That's true, you do. A bit more likely to die from a car than a gun...
     
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    Hunting invasive and dangerous wild pigs which are destroying natural habitat everywhere they expand to
     
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    Thirty to fifty wild hogs
     
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    2 officers shot and the terrorist shot and killed.

    If only there were no guns this may have been a perfectly innocent terrorist attack with no bad killings. Only roughly a dozen exceedingly acceptable automotive related deaths and dozens of pleasant automotive injuries.

    Like the wonderful gun free car attack in Germany last week that gently put to rest 5 individuals and pleasantly injured 200...

    But with only a few bad deaths this probably isn't worth focusing on improving access to mental healthcare (all healthcare) including identifying and helping people prior to entering crisis states...

    Probably better to ban 3d printing so we can better protect health insurance executives...
     
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    Part of me doesn't like pulling every mass casualty event into the"culture war", but it does underscore that it's not the gun, it's not the vehicle, it's violent people. While there are still violent people in the world, law abiding citizenry should be allowed to defend themselves. In many countries, women aren't even allowed to own pepper spray, so they are sitting ducks.
     
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    Just one more asinine excuse for Second Amendment whackos to justify NOT having more controls on gun ownership. "But, but cars are required to be registered and drivers to be trained and licensed and yet this STILL happened. So any restrictions on fire arms will have absolutely NO effect." I guess because I have two cars I am one, well armed motherfucker. Don't tread on me!!! (I suppose the last two lines should be in green font.........except it isn't sarcasm.......).
     
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    You don't have to be trained or licensed to own a car. Only to use it on public roads.

    Guns are already more heavily regulated than vehicles.

    The point is that focusing on the tool is a fools errand. We should be focusing on services and other systemic changes to help prevent people from falling to crisis states.
     
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    Woulda, coulda, shoulda, maybe, if only. Yada, yada, yada. You make the glaringly obvious point but conveniently ignore the self evident truth that "focusing on services and other systemic changes to help prevent people from falling to crisis states" ain't gonna happen in this lifetime or this world. In the very near future we are facing cuts (if not total elimination) of very basic "entitlements". Do you really think that MAGAworld (or anyone else who isn't personally affected) gives a rat's ass????? Yeah, all that shit needs to be done....and in a caring world it would be. This ain't that world. So do the doable. Restrict the fuck out of firearms and fuck twisting ourselves into pretzels trying to justify the Second Amendment as inviolate when it actually isn't, no matter how loud "Murricans whine or present convoluted, nonsensical arguments. Sometimes common sense is exactly that. Quit letting the Rittenhouses and Daniel Pennys of the world off while prosecuting the Mangioni's. Quit trying to gray up black and white. We are such a weak willed, scared bunch of pussies, afraid to do the right thing. And........

    Why do we automatically assume the NOLA driver was mentally ill, or in a mental health crisis?? Sounds to me like he had well executed, murderous intent. But we'll likely never know. And.............you may not be required to be trained and licensed to own a car, but you are required to be trained and licensed to drive one. As a longtime vehicle owner (who has never owned a firearm) it sure seems like vehicle ownership requires far, far more regulation and oversight than gun ownership.

    Anyway, slice it however, it's always easier to control the ownership of inanimate objects than it is to regulate and control mental health. But I'm sure you'll find a way to argue otherwise.......
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    But it has happened in every other developed western country. There is no reason it can't happen here as well, if the people demand it.
    No doubt. But I think the attacks on gun rights are part of the reason we're looking at a Trump presidency for the next 4 years. That cost a lot of support in the rust belt. That's a part of the reason they lose Hispanic support. They are turning off their base that support these rights. Why do you think Harris was so upfront about saying she's a gun owner? Part of the reason Democrats are losing their their base is because they are making baseless political claims which they know nothing about and that can only lose the respect of their base rather than focusing on the real problems.

    You can't get rid of 400 million firearms. Or 3d printers. You can't eliminate the millions of garage shops capable of making fully automatic assault weapons.

    Shit, the Philippines make fully automatic guns by hand for the black market without half the ability or equipment the average American garage has.

    And they don't have near the gun culture we have in the US. If you more strictly restrict guns, you will simply have people making untraceable fully automatic weapons in their garages for the black market. Because fully automatic weapons are much easier to make than semi-automatic weapons.

    It's simply not possible to significantly reduce firearms deaths with further firearms restrictions. Certainly not with the restrictions that are being suggested (assault weapon ban even though anything they try to define as an assault weapon is used to kill fewer people than are killed by blunt force objects, and couldn't be further restricted anyway).

    I've got no arguments here. I don't know the details of those cases. Rittenhouse is certainly no hero.

    I don't assume this murderer is in their right mind. But if they were born here there's probably a pretty good chance that they slipped through the cracks somewhere.

    You are required to be licensed and trained to have a firearm in public as well, at least, in most states. And I'm fine with states being allowed to make that restriction. Though I believe there should be a federal standard that must be met if a state does make that restriction. And federally funded training and certification process rather than the random state level tests that rely on local law enforcement to manage like we have now.

    I think if we got serious about this we could probably get most states to require a license and training to conceal carry a firearm in most cities.

    But it would probably require allowing reciprocity of that license across all states.

    I think we could further help things by offering tax incentives for individuals to take these annual federal courses.

    I am absolutely going to argue differently because most Western nations (all of them but the US) have instituted the kind of changes that I'm advocating for. And they all saw the benefits of far lower crime rates and rates of violence than we see in the US. And that was all the case before they had any gun restrictions. Since they instituted gun restrictions the US has actually seen a larger reduction in violent crime and murder rates than those countries have.

    Yes, it's going to be a shit show with Trump. But the Democrats need to get their shit together and start talking about things that are really important and make sense to most Americans otherwise we're going to get JD Vance after Trump.

    There is no gun control that can change anything to the benefit of Democrats.

    I don't fault you for having your opinion and I understand why you have it. Unfortunately I know a lot about this subject and some of the things you are talking about are simply not accurate or reasonable.
     
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