Game Thread 2024-25 GAME #11- BLAZERS VS GRIZZLIES - NOVEMBER 10, 2024 - SUNDAY - 6 PM - KATU 2.2, BLAZERVISION

Spurs got a future Minnesota pick, we should have done that type of deal if we didn't want to use the pick.

Trading for a role player to win when we don't have a single starter makes zero strategic sense.

 

chauncey is a massive part of the problem.

if he is saying this in public, i'm even more confident in my earlier take in this thread that he's cooked.

 

I think it's bordering on an objective fact at this point that the two timelines thing from Joe has been a total fucking disaster. There really isn't even a remote semblance of a light at the end of the tunnel.

 

Joe signed Ant and Jerami to their contracts. He has acquired every player on this roster besides the two of them and again, he gave Ant and Jerami those contracts. Ant didn't sign an extension so even if both his and Jerami's contracts had been agreed to while Olshey was still here, Joe still inked those deals. It is Joe's mess that Joe has made... if people want to get into speculation about Vulcan tampering with Joe's tenure that's fine but that's just Joe not knowing how to manage his managers.

This roster and the fact that we still have three role players in Ant, Jerami and Deandre that are getting treated like all stars on this team... that's on Joe and Chauncey but the buck stops with Joe for me when it comes to all things basketball. With Joe's history with Vulcan he should be able to sell those people on anything that he wants to do that doesn't put this team in the luxury tax.

 

1000% this!

 

He might be, I think he says the right shit. I think he seems very engaged with the players but firing Chauncey is not the first fire I'd put out on this team. I'd definitely want to get Jerami, Ant and Deandre to teams where they are seen as role players and go all in on this rebuild. After those three are gone and no longer seen as the vets and leaders on this team, if we've got a bunch of young guys who don't look motivated then I'll be calling for Chauncey to be fired. Until then it's on Joe and even if you think Chauncey needs to go right now and then address the roster, that's on Joe too.

 

Joe acquired Grant.

 

Tonight we had way more talent on the floor. With Morant and Bane, they have the edge.

 

Right... yikes. He tried to acquire him when he was doing all of those CJ, Larry, RoCo and Norm moves but didn't get it done until that summer. It was Joe's second summer when he signed Jerami even though Dame really seemed like he was not coming back. I forgot the timeline for a second there. Thanks.

The fucking train wreck Joe is turning this team into is sad. It was a mismanaged roster under Neil and I do prefer Joe's personality but what in the actual fuck is he doing here? Jerami, Ant and DA are valuable role players... I think all of them have reasonable contracts for what they bring. None of them are first option guys and none of them have ever showed anything close to leadership from what I've seen. So why are they here?

I could see it if these guys were the type of 4th-6th man on the roster who are top class NBA leaders... the kind of glue guys that inspire everyone around them... but these dudes are not close to being that. If these three guys... actually if Jerami and Ant aren't traded at the deadline, I'll definitely be melting down. It's just so shitty that Joe very obviously has no accountability for the basketball product he puts on the floor night in and night out as long as he keeps this team under the tax. Joe isn't going anywhere so we all just have to keep hoping that he does the right thing with Jerami and Ant as soon as possible.

 

Think your underestimating how little talent we do have.

Memphis was a 1.5 point favorite tonight.... Even after all their injuries and players out were announced.

 

The silly thing about all of this bullshit is that we've seen what Scoot and Shae look like leading this team... they both did it at the end of their rookie years. We haven't seen what that looks like with both of them at the same time but both of them played way better when they weren't trying to fit in with Jerami and Ant. They both looked more comfortable and were both way more aggressive on both ends. There is no doubt about it, this two timeline nonsense is hurting the development of these young guys.

 

two were against the injury-ravaged Pelicans

I'd leave the chips on my shirt for balance

 

Yeah, it was evident to me very quickly that Joe was in way over his head.

Nearly every move he’s made (or didn’t make) since has just compounded my initial thoughts of him.

He must have some kind of dirt on Jody.

 

You may be correct.

Even if your wrong, what purpose do all 5 of these vets provide? I can understand one or two of them, but just from as asset perspective to rebuild the roster it made zero sense to hold onto all of them the moment Dame was traded.

 

They had less talent tonight, just better coached.

Huff and Laravia are decent players. But our top 3 players tonight were way better than their top 3 that played.

Our starting lineup from a pure talent perspective was way better than theirs.

 

It’s been my biggest criticism of the team going on a couple years now.

Shit or get off the pot.

 

All his draft picks have been fine. The Dame to Milwaukee part of the trade was very good, especially considering the 1 team request chaos he had to navigate.

The other moves he has made or players he has kept have been perplexing at best.

The biggest problem is none of his moves follow a consistent plan. Trade vet for pick, trade pick for vet, sit vets, resign overpaid players, trade vet for picks, trade picks for vets.

This isn't just a Dame thing either, he trades Dame for picks then trades those picks for a role player in Deni a year later. That's not how a long term rebuild should be done.

Zero long term strategic direction.

 

Ugly is as ugly does. Did the Blazers leave any paint on the rims? Memphis scored 134 points on 85 shots; Blazers score 89 points on 100 shots.

dumpster fires on every level of the franchise. I guess it's good for the tank, but the inertia is boring as hell

 

He would have been perfect during the peak Dame era