Plausible destinations for our vets?

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    More competition driving down the value of our guys:

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    Chet Holmgren will be out for 3 months, or longer. The Thunder will be looking for a C. Time for Timelord-->OKC trades?
     
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    When does Hartenstein come back?

    I could see them willing to take on Timelord but doubt he can get a pick unless he plays well and healthy for at least a few months.

    Although maybe we can cut some of his contract for next year and just consider that enough.
     
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    Wagner has a team option next year, Cole does in year 3. So it's a cap savings, gets Anfernee off the team in exchange for a 1st.

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    I think, given how many FRP they have stockpiled, the price for them is higher than it would be for any other team. And it (assuming one) has to be either this year or next and unprotected. Or if not, two FRPs minimum.
     
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    I just can't believe Ant has FRP value, unless it's us giving up the pick, or it's a much worse contract than Cole Anthony.
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    HOU would be worse.
     
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    I actually bet Rob is the first of our vets to go. I would almost guarantee the offers that are out there right now for Ant and Jerami were the same as we were getting during the off season that Joe didn't take. Rob however looks like a big time difference maker and it only takes a game like tonight to get some NBA GMs really frothing at the mouth. If Rob shows up like this again tomorrow and doesn't get hurt he might be gone before the Hawks game on Sunday.
     
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    Rob was so fun to watch tonight, and even fun to watch the prior games, that I'm totally fine keeping him. He's the type of vet you want on a young team, a hustle unselfish player with great D and efficient scoring.

    Sure he could get hurt at any moment, but whatever, then we can just give a young guy those minutes.

    We must trade two of Grant Ayton Ant ASAP!
     
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    We get out of the stupid 90 million of Grant Ayton Ant

    Buyout Lonzo and Jalen Hood.

    Vincent is end of the bench trade fodder

    Rui provides another forward for us.

    CJ gives us a vet presence who can take on Brogdon role from last season but being older can sit out more and defer more than Ant.
     
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    I agree that most likely Ant and Jerami have to go and they'll likely have to go for what has already been offered but Rob is going to have a ton of new suitors and if we can get a FRP, maybe a prospect and expiring contracts that we can cut for Rob we'd have to pull the trigger because like you said "sure he could get hurt at any moment" and then the trade value is gone.

    I wouldn't trade him to offload his contract... I wouldn't trade any of these guys (Rob, Tisse, Ant, Jerami and Deandre) just to offload their contracts because their talent justifies those contracts, especially on teams trying to win more games. That being said if we can get a FRP and non penalizing contracts for Rob we have to get that value now.
     
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    Probably not "plausible", but feels like a simple, best-case scenario.

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    I kind of like this, but the Nets have to add in more value, right? I love the role Ben is playing right now off the bench. Another physical playmaking wing who pushes the pace.
     
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    Sure, that'd be great if they did, but would we really be any worse off if they didn't? How much value do you honestly expect to receive back from either Ant or Ayton?
     
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    Ayton is not tradable at this point. Bad contract. He needs to really shake ups his game.
     
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    Portland gets to dump two players standing in the way of other players, and both players have little to no value. Might even be negative value factors with that particular pair of Blazers. Plus, and this is a big bonus, Portland reduces next season's payroll by as much as 64M. That ain't nothing!
     
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    Yeah I'd take a pure salary dump at this point. Sure we could've traded Ant years ago for a much higher return but whats done is done, thats a sunk cost.

    I'd even explore just trading them for a clearly inferior player on a similar contract that goes into next season. Any new player we acquire won't have the history of being a starter and we can sit them on the bench without the drama that would come from benching Simons or Ayton.

    I'm fine with keeping ONE of Grant/Ayton/Simons..... but we MUST TRADE TWO NOW!
     
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    Yes I'd do that Nets trade.

    As others have said, we save the salary of next season. We kind of missed the boat on trading Ant for value, but whats done is done and I just don't see his value increasing by the deadline or in the summer, better to move on ASAP.

    I wonder if the Nets might consider it, if they don't have cap space coming this summer then they clearly get the better players and can always flip then later. Also being a new team they can stick them on the bench without the drama that it would have if we tried to bench Ayton or Ant.
     

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