Plausible destinations for our vets?

Yup, we got a tank to catch.

 

I agree that is the best offer from ORL for Simons. No way they add a frp. They are a great young team and in no rush to make a title run. Shit their two best players are a few years away from peaking.

 

Lakers should just trade for Grant and Rob Williams at the same time. Sell high on Knecht and a pick. Let's go.

 

Timelord is by far the most likely traded, has real value.

Ayton and Ant we're stuck with.

 

Blazers more likely to trade DeAndre Ayton than Robert Williams?

While Fischer also brought up Robert Williams as a possible option for the Lakers, he says he has talked to people around the league recently, including scouts, who believe the Trail Blazers may be more inclined to trade Deandre Ayton than Williams at this season’s trade deadline. Given that Ayton’s cap hit is nearly three times higher than Williams’, the Blazers may have a hard time extracting much of value for the former No. 1 overall pick

 

With Ant's value declining by the minute... God I wish we would have traded him sooner...

 

obviously, I'm kind of anti-Ant, but I don't think his value has changed much in the last 20-30 months. I think it was always rather low. I'd say it's dropped a little as it has become clear he's worthless on defense and shows no signs of improving. But his limitations and flaws have been apparent for quite a while. I'd say expecting a 1st round pick for him has always been a bridge too far

 

I don’t think anyone’s value has declined. Most anyone who’d want our vets could easily see for themselves they’re mostly all poor fits for the current Blazers and likely play huge roles on actual contenders.

 

Cronin doesn't know when to let go.

 

Yeah, you might be right.

 

Yeah, that's a terrible trade because those players are on the books longer than Simons. If we trade Simons for "nothing" it should be for expirings.

 

yep

 

POR is clearly, far and away the worst offensive team. The wins are because Chauncey continues to play JG, AS etc. This is such a huge mistake on his part. Really really inexcusable and proof, imho, of his incompetence. It makes no sense to fight tooth and nail with vets to eek out a win here or there when all it does is lessen the chances of, potentially, drafting a bona fide transformative franchise player. This franchise is in pretty bad shape any way you look at it. The only keepers being Deni and Toumari but neither are ready yet to start for a winning team. Happy to be proven wrong but until I see otherwise SS, SH, and KM are busts. That hurts but what can you do?

The vets must be dealt for picks. A top pick in the upcoming draft is essential.

 

I disagree. 1-2 seasons ago his breakout was still fresh and there was a narrative that “well he’s avg 23 a game in his first extended run, he’s only 24, how much better might he get?”

That potential value and upside narrative is now gone. Similar to CJ actually, who we could have traded with picks for PG in his prime. By the time we traded CJ, there was no perceived potential left.

 

I’ve been saying this for awhile now. One of the traits of a bad GM is holding onto players too long and they get exposed and their value plummets.

 

I mean sure but what’s the alternative? Benching both and playing them 10 min a game? Chauncey is a bad coach who should not return next year but the roster mismatch and unnecessary vets are cronin’s fault.

 

#23 picks don’t bust, they’re just #23 picks.

blazers are in need of trades. It won’t be long now.

 

Where's Clingan in your "keepers", if he is not no one else is

 

Holding onto and playing Grant Ayton Ant is idiotic - but that's a failure of Cronin not a failure of Billups.