Miller, Kakko, Smith, Vesey, Carrick, Lindgren..replenish some of the missing draft capital. Highly unlikely Kreider, Panarin or Fox get dealt this year.
I would lean that way, but I don't really care who gets dealt as long as it breaks up this stale core and is more than one guy. If they kept Fox and dealt Miller and another core guy, I'd live (even though I prefer to deal Fox because of the NMC and I'd expect a better return for Fox than Miller). They cannot both be part of this D next season. And remember, Miller is a RFA with arbitration rights this summer, so he's getting a raise, and potentially a long-term deal (2 years away from UFA). On the one hand deal him rather than giving him a bigger contract, on the other hand do you deal him when his value is down.
Smith, Vesey, Carrick are all crap and useless and don't even count to me. They can go for a bag of pucks and open up spots for some kids. Lindgren is a lock to be dealt IMO. I see almost no shot Panarin is dealt even if you could get him to waive his NMC. I also think it is highly unlikely Fox gets dealt, but I won't say no shot (it has to be before his NMC kicks in). Kreider I absolutely could see going to a contender as a good leader and vet goal scorer. Miller and Kakko are two guys I think are top of the list to go. I say strike while the iron is hot, but I am not just talking about trades this season before the DL, this team needs to have a new core by next season. Multiple core guys need to go now or this summer.
The core had a run and fell short. It is over. You can’t hit on one center pick in 24 years and expect it not to screw you over eventually. Jones can go also. He’s tremendously overrated by this fan base. Much rather see a bigger, stay at home defenseman.
Jones overrated by the fanbase? There was one or maybe two people on this board who tried to convince everyone else that Jones was a tradable asset and could lead the PP for many other teams.
Yes, he is tradeable and could potentially lead a PP unit on another team. However, our fan base is making it seem he's playing great defensively and he's not. He's committing moronic turnovers every game now. Some of that could be attributed by the lack of leadership on this team and a non existent defensive system. He's also small and as I stated before, check the defenseman of teams that make the finals or win the cup. They are huge size wise. Having two 5'10 defenseman on y0ur roster is a recipe for disaster. Having Fox and Jones on your defense is redundant in many ways. Both small defenseman who aren't physical, don't win puck battles, take too many chances and rely on offense. I'm not sure I would trade Fox unless it was in the right deal where you got a top offensive defenseman prospect with size back. However, other than Schneider, Mancini and Fox, I would not keep any of the defenseman. Miller, Lindgren, Jones, essentially our entire left side can be sent packing.
Zibanajed, Kreider, Miller and Kakko are the main names that should be traded. I mean trade Vesey for what? A stick and puck? It does nothing for you. Mika can still return value and hopefully he can get himself straight somewhere else. Kreider is a tough one but he has become an ultra one dimensional player. Miller has been a mess since he took a mental health leave. Another guy who probably shouldn’t be in a big city. Kakko should offer a nice return as well. You can’t just move your crap. You have to make the tough decisions and sometimes say goodbye to guys you don’t want to. People forget Brian Leetch was traded. Wayne Gretzky was traded. You have to eliminate emotional attachments in order to move forward.
Vesey will have surprisingly good value at the deadline. I think he will get at least a second rounder because he's a class act, good skater, good PK guy, has size with some offense. On another teams 4th line and PK unit, he would be quite useful. Teams overpay like drunken sailors at the deadline every season.
I don't agree with Kakko being added to the list of the overpaid dogs that need to be traded, unless he's going to bring Cozens back, as Dump suggested in the other thread. If Kakko stays, he (and his line) should be given top minutes and PP time. He is doing reasonably well this season ( 14pts in 29gms) despite only getting 13mins a game. It's criminal that Cuylle-Chytil-Kakko are getting 13-14mins a game with a dog like Kreider getting 17+.
Don’t know what happened to Kreider. He just wants to stand around on the PP and you don’t notice him out there most of the other times. A lot of miles on him but his ultra one dimensional play is unacceptable.
I'm surprised Kreider has become such a lazy bitch considering how much he prides himself on fitness and how he helps the younger players train. What the fuck is the point of training that hard if you aren't going to be a good even strength player.
