Plausible destinations for our vets?

I keep having hope for Simons. Hoping the pizza man can be right about a deal with Orlando.

 

I've seen a few times that people want to take on other teams' bad contracts for picks. I think maybe it'd help some not complain every single day about the same things if you then consider that we took on Ayton's bad money to get Camara(a draft pick). Camara's looking like an All Defensive team wing. Pretend we took on Ayton for that and it feels quite a bit better.

 

Well maybe I should say not having them would have provided more value to the Blazers than we got by having them?

If we did not have them we could've used that salary room to take on a Harrison Barnes type of vet and get a pick. Thats what smart franchises like the Thunder and Spurs have done during rebuilds.

Seems like were splitting hairs on rhetoric.

 

Calling bs.

 

It can't be BS - the odds are whatever the odds are. If you think one is way undervalued put some of your cash on it.

Now they don't have PDX listed as this is only a bet contingent on IF ANT is traded. For all we know expectations with this bet are 99.9% that Ant will remain a Blazer.

 

I am not trying to nitpick your post, this is for discussion purposes only. But we won't really need to add an 18-million-dollar Harrison Barnes-type vet for a few years. What would be nice is to have assets available in case another Pascal Siakam situation occurs, where we need to match a better player's salary that is 30+ million. And after tanking yet again this year, next year might be a good time to do it. (assuming we move Grant this year)

 

That's exactly what I do with Ayton. I'm happy with that deal.

 

It's not Harrison Barnes the player I wanted - its the pick that the Spurs got for eating his contract.

We still would always have contracts to match in later trades. The Spurs, Thunder, Jazz, Rockets, Nets, Magic, etc have had contracts to match up in trades every year. The difference is they received draft picks to take on those irrelevant veterans instead of blowing that salary space as the Blazers did on Thybulle/Ayton/Simons type players, or shipping out picks to pay Grant $160 million.

 

I would get the FRP for Jerami, I would try and get a FRP for Rob, I would try and get Black, Anthony and one of Orlando's two 2025 FRPs for Ant and Dalano and then I'd take as many of those picks as it takes (probably only two) and send those with Deandre to the Pelicans for Zion. We need to swing big and Zion is a huge risk but the reward on that risk is exactly what we're in place to make a play for. If Zion is never healthy then we struck out but we struck out during a time when we aren't winning anyway.

I would hope that our team gets Zion on a program to change his body and really address his upper leg muscle issues, have Zion work on that the rest of this season and then start playing him next season.

 

We need to start a countdown timer for all of the bad contracts until they are expirings. Its gonna be a long few years. WTF Joe signed JG for another go round is beyond. Me.
Best hope that DA has some sort of spiritual awakening that alters his attitude and outlook on the game and how he plays it. It kills me when people on a team don't give 110%. I just dont get it.

 

You'd be lucky to get 1/4th of what you're asking for LMFAO.

 

We took on Ayton to get Camara. They took on Barnes to get a swap 7 years from now.

 

So you don't think the Lakers give up a FRP for Jerami? I think that one is a given. I think that the Magic likely want/need an offensive threat like Ant and could use somebody like Dalano... I think Anthony Black and Cole Anthony likely wouldn't be enough to get Ant and Dalano. If I had to include second round picks in these deals to get a FRP back, I'd do it.

Honestly if we get a FRP for Jerami, we could then just trade that pick, the worst out of our three 2029 FRPs and Deandre for Zion.

If we came away from this deadline with Zion, Anthony Black, Cole Anthony and ended up with a net neutral in FRPs, I'd be happy... even if it meant giving up some second rounders.

The question I have for you is what does 1/4th of the return on any of those deals look like??? Is Rob only worth a fourth of a FRP? Is Jerami only worth a fourth of a FRP? Are Ant and Dalano only worth a fourth of Black, Anthony and a FRP? And is Deandre and two firsts worth only a fourth of Zion???

I'm not laughing my fucking ass off, I'm serious. How the fuck are the guys that I said to trade only worth a fourth of the return, hell I'll be impressed if you can tell me why you think Jerami is only worth half of the return I'm asking for.

 

First off I'd love to get these FRP - all the articles posted today basically show our vets don't have any of that value any longer.

Secondly even if Zion is healthy and 100% next year where does that get our team?

We'd have a rookie who is going to make mistakes. Yes Zion healthy is impressive but he can't do it on his own. We'd have lost all the contributions of Ant/Delano/Grant/Rob. Instead of 13/14th in the West were probably 10th or 11th.

I'm fine with taking a flyer on Zion - but it should be a pure reclamation project and not sending out multiple FRP.

 

No, Rui is a superior player.

 

I think we'd have to send out the pick to get Anthony Black and Cole Anthony, LOL.

 

The problem is spelled out in the Athletic - its that all of Grant/Ayton/Ant make too much money. Contenders don't have salary space to add these players. Teams that aren't contenders don't want them.

If Grant was earning the minimum for 5 years he'd fetch multiple FRP. So it's not that the players have no value on the court. Its that they have little value in relation to their salary.

 

Rui is a superior player to Grant???

 

I'm not really going to get into it. I think your trades are rose colored delusional (especially the Ant trade). I'll wait to see what we actually get.