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julius said:
Cool info. Utah definitely has momentum. I'll honestly be pissed if Utah gets NHL and MLB, Seattle gets NHL and NBA (back), and Vegas get MLB, NBA, NFL and NHL and we get a new hat.
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That Diamond Project letterman jacket might be a collectors item some day.
 
MLB to PDX makes the most sense of all the pro sports. People love being outside in the NW in the summer.

I'll be very curious to see more details of the new proposal.

Just looking at maps like many other people I don't see how there is enough room at that South Waterfront spot though, traffic is a disaster, few transit options, limited parking, not many hotels, and bridges-buildings-other construction are all over that area. I guess we'll see what the plans are.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
MLB to PDX makes the most sense of all the pro sports. People love being outside in the NW in the summer.

I'll be very curious to see more details of the new proposal.

Just looking at maps like many other people I don't see how there is enough room at that South Waterfront spot though, traffic is a disaster, few transit options, limited parking, not many hotels, and bridges-buildings-other construction are all over that area. I guess we'll see what the plans are.
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I don't know. When I was at T-Mobile Park in Seattle I didn't really see any hotels or restaurants in the area. There was plenty of parking and it was close to a freeway but there were no other amenities to speak of outside the park. It's been a few years so maybe that's changed but Portland on the other hand has an abundance of hotels and restaurants just minutes from South Waterfront. I do see traffic being an issue without some major changes but I guess we'll see if Portland is even in the running.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
MLB to PDX makes the most sense of all the pro sports. People love being outside in the NW in the summer.

I'll be very curious to see more details of the new proposal.

Just looking at maps like many other people I don't see how there is enough room at that South Waterfront spot though, traffic is a disaster, few transit options, limited parking, not many hotels, and bridges-buildings-other construction are all over that area. I guess we'll see what the plans are.
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All you gotta do is drive to Omsi/central eastside then walk over that new no car bridge (Tilikum Crossing)..
 
AldoTrapani said:
All you gotta do is drive to Omsi/central eastside then walk over that new no car bridge (Tilikum Crossing)..
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I mean thats fine if its maybe a few hundred people... but if theres 50,000 there's no way OMSI parking lot is making a dent in that.

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SharpesTriumph said:
I mean thats fine if its maybe a few hundred people... but if theres 50,000 there's no way OMSI parking lot is making a dent in that.

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There is a lot of parking over there, even outside of OMSI.

Parking at Rose Quarter and taking max could probably work most times. Also, the convention center is over there.

And you could even add more parking structures...

Take advantage of Max and the streetcar...
 
I think traffic will still definitely be annoying, and it's a different scale, but look at PGE/Providence, whatever the hell it's called park. They fit 25k and have 0 parking lots or structures by them.
Baseball no longer does the 50k stadiums. It'll likely be in the 35k range. It's still not great, but if we can make 25 happen with nothing, 35 with some space around should be fine.
 
RR7 said:
I think traffic will still definitely be annoying, and it's a different scale, but look at PGE/Providence, whatever the hell it's called park. They fit 25k and have 0 parking lots or structures by them.
Baseball no longer does the 50k stadiums. It'll likely be in the 35k range. It's still not great, but if we can make 25 happen with nothing, 35 with some space around should be fine.
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Yeah but it rains!

Er. We're a liberal city!!

Er ...
 
RR7 said:
I think traffic will still definitely be annoying, and it's a different scale, but look at PGE/Providence, whatever the hell it's called park. They fit 25k and have 0 parking lots or structures by them.
Baseball no longer does the 50k stadiums. It'll likely be in the 35k range. It's still not great, but if we can make 25 happen with nothing, 35 with some space around should be fine.
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Or we can wait a few more years till baseball only needs 25k, and then we can just put the team into Civic Stadium.

Problem solved.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Or we can wait a few more years till baseball only needs 25k, and then we can just put the team into Civic Stadium.

Problem solved.

barfo
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There is a sweet spot in there somewhere? I wonder if they should add some pickleball options? Drone racing?
 
SharpesTriumph said:
I mean thats fine if its maybe a few hundred people... but if theres 50,000 there's no way OMSI parking lot is making a dent in that.

Parking_at_OMSI%2C_Portland_Waterfront.jpeg
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Why would there be 50,000? I'm assuming the capacity of the stadium would be around 37,000 or so.

Here are the capacities of the most recently built baseball stadiums.

In Seattle, in 2024 the average attendance was 31,553.

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AldoTrapani said:
That’s what they use to say to Marshall Glickman back in the days
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I think it's more that the group that is doing it doesn't necessarily come off believable at times.

Not that it couldn't work here or shouldn't be here
 
julius said:
I think it's more that the group that is doing it doesn't necessarily come off believable at times.

Not that it couldn't work here or shouldn't be here
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How are they not believable? lol they’re literally buying land and doing what MLB asking them to do? What the hell else can they say and do?
 
AldoTrapani said:
How are they not believable? lol they’re literally buying land and doing what MLB asking them to do? What the hell else can they say and do?
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We're a fanbase/city that has been used as leverage a lot, we're cynical. Plus, the have grandiose ideas, and no real concrete #s or transparent information.

And look at Vegas and Utah. Vegas got NFL, NHL, is about to get MLB and NBA...Utah got NHL and have made public declarations of how much money they've put aside and who is in charge and how it will be done.

PDP has released unrealistic artistic representations of what they want to do, and hats.
 
julius said:
We're a fanbase/city that has been used as leverage a lot, we're cynical. Plus, the have grandiose ideas, and no real concrete #s or transparent information.

And look at Vegas and Utah. Vegas got NFL, NHL, is about to get MLB and NBA...Utah got NHL and have made public declarations of how much money they've put aside and who is in charge and how it will be done.

PDP has released unrealistic artistic representations of what they want to do, and hats.
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Utah has made public declarations? What???

When PDP is doing that very thing they’re called bullshitters lol
 
AldoTrapani said:
Utah has made public declarations? What???

When PDP is doing that very thing they’re called bullshitters lol
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We know that Utah has 3.5 billion from the Larry Smith foundation.

Can you name a dollar amount and any *real* leader who has that kind of cheddar?
 
julius said:
We know that Utah has 3.5 billion from the Larry Smith foundation.

Can you name a dollar amount and any *real* leader who has that kind of cheddar?
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Unfortunately money in the Portland metro area might be more concerned about having enough cheddar to keep the Blazers here when that becomes necessary.

Jody and her bullshit may be helping to freeze the kind of investment that would be necessary to support another franchise or facility.
 
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