Eating Crow about Scoot

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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Do you happen to have Banton’s numbers after 80+ games at the age of 20? That would be 5 years ago I believe and it wasn’t up against NBA players. I’m giving scoot some time.
     
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    When reading and responding, I generally assume a basic level of intelligence on the part of those involved. I'm sorry if I misjudged you.

    "It's hard to drive to the hoop when his defender plays him only to drive..."

    "He doesn't seem to have a problem getting into the paint when he wants to."

    "But he's an awful finisher, and many of his turnovers come from drive attempts."

    "That's irrelevant to what I was responding to."

    Follow the bouncing ball...
     
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    I just read the last page of the Sharpe thread and see a major debate about how other players are possibly impacting Shae’s development. Interesting. Does this logic/excuse not apply to Scoot? I haven’t’ seen anybody mention this in this thread. I see a bunch of posts here sharing Scoot’s numbers this season. We’re his numbers UP when certain other players WEREN’T out there with him? Just curious.
     
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    I was at USC during his brief college career and I saw him shopping at the local grocery story. That's my brush with fame. Nobody at USC would've guessed that Robert Pack would have the better NBA career.

    I have a theory that Miner was (is) on the Spectrum, not that that's relevant to anything.
     
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    What? You serious?
     
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    Since Scoot never played in college can we get an NIL deal for him to play for the Ducks?
     
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    If you want the Ducks basketball team to improve, maybe football?
     
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    I just brought up Robert Pack last night. Big fan.
     
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    This brings up a fun memory. My kid won a sports event at his school and got 2 tickets to sit in the Blazers area when there was CFL game played in Portland. We sat right behind Terry Porter. Robert Pack was sitting in the stands just above us. My son wanted to get his autograph but was kind of chicken about asking him. Unknown to us, Pack’s dad was sitting next to us and overheard my son. He asked if he could help, and then took care of getting the autograph for him. Fun evening.
     
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    Your right Banton wasn't in the NBA until he was 22, so lets compare Scoot to similar age NBA players.

    When Scoot was drafted #3 I was hoping he would join the list of players at age 19 or 20 as I posted about Monday in Gramps player contribution thread. Unfortunately Scoot is not similar statistically to any of these players at the same age 19/20 seasons;
    Chris Paul
    Luka Doncic
    Tony Parker
    LaMelo Ball
    Jamal Murray
    Kyrie Irving
    Stephon Marbury
    Derrick Rose
    Brandon Jennings
    Ja Morant
    Trae Young
    Coby White
    Isiah Thomas
    John Wall
    Russell Westbrook
    D'Angelo Russell​

    These are statistically the most similar NBA players to Scoot and all at the same age 19-21, as I posted above. Unfortunately Scoot is on the below list and not the above one;
    Emmanuel Mudiay
    Dennis Smith Jr
    Dion Waiters
    Elie Okobo
    Tony Wroten
    Archive Goodwin
    Blake Wesley
    Marcus Williams
    DeShawn Stevenson
    Scoot Henderson​
     
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    Pretty similar to some guy named Chauncey Billups his first few seasons.
     
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    Your sort of right in that Billups wasn't good his first few years and took awhile to improve.

    I don't see how Scoot is statistically at his level though, seems much worse to me;

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    2 year age advantage to Chauncey
     
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    And what about mins played and games started? Billups has the big edge there.

    no one can deny Scoot is struggling, but that could also be part to him coming off the bench and not really getting to play through his mistake enough and get lots of reps when you compare the minutes and starts to Billups
     
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    It's OK. I'm sure there's something else that's got your attention.
     
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    I filed away Archive Goodwin.
     
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    Haha uhhhhhh

    ok

    nice one
     
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    This right here. Sharpe is playing his natural position and having the highest usage in his career, and we can all see the potential he has at times.

    If someone was using that same logic that Ant was impacting Scoot, as in playing the same position and starting over him, then I can get behind that logic of why some would want to move Ant.

    Another discussion would be if you think Scoot is ready or not or will never be ready as some think. But we won’t know if he ever will be if he doesn’t get to start and play through this mistake and play bigger minutes to learn. Then we can start to see if Scoot is going learn and improve as he goes or just flat out wasn’t all he was hyped up to be. That will never happen though if Ant is on the team most likely.
     
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