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  1. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It's not like there are zero billionaires in Oregon outside of Phil Knight. This is the mentality that has kept us a 1 horse town for 55 years.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I have two of the hats a really like them thank you very much.
     
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    Well if I was a billionaire my interest wouldn't be a question. Unfortunately since I'm not a billionaire my mentality doesn't come into play.

    Until you want to get Dutch Bros or Columbia Sportswear interested... And even then, I'm not sure either of them are billionaire enough.

    Isn't that the only 3 billionaires in this state?

    That's where Utah has an edge on us. They have twice as many billionaires...
     
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    Also just being a billionaire isn't enough, teams are billions and lots of people have worth tied up in investment.
     
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    There are only 3.
    Phil Knight is by far the biggest with just over 40 billion.
    Timothy Boyle from Columbia Sportswear who holds about 2 billion.
    Travis Boersma from Dutch Bros. Coffee. He also has about 2 billion.

    Bottom line Oregon doesn't have the money locally other than Phil Knight.
     
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    GriLtCheeZ "Well, I'm not lookin' for trouble."

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    Plans for OMSI District
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    This is actually the beginning of stretching downtown to the east side. Eventually you will see a 30-40 story building on the east side. After that you will see them build a taller building around 50-60 stories. Right now they cannot build a bigger building on the west side because Arlene wanted to be able to see Mt Hood from her living room.
     
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    And if you assume building the size of big pink that would be 583,000 ft², or enough square footage for about 1,900 people.

    10 of those buildings would free up enough housing for all of the homeless in Oregon.
     
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    People sometimes bring up Nvidia founder Jensen Huang who went to high school in Oregon, then OSU - and is worth 120 billion. But he did grad school at Stanford and has lived primarily in California since.
     
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    At maybe 4 or 5 times the cost of building houses for them. Not sure that new skyscrapers are the answer to the housing crisis.

    But maybe that wasn't really your point anyway.

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    Where would you be building the houses? I don't see a lot of open space in Portland to build that many houses.
     
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    Homeless people probably wouldn't move into those units. But adding units there would allow for people with financial means to move in and free up older housing for lesser income people to move in to.
     
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    On the space currently taken up by the Moda Center, which isn't necessary now that the Blazers are leaving town.

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    Just doing some reading... The Ritz-Carlton is supposed to be 1 million square feet. And from what I can find it's coming in at around $600 million to build. That's $600 per square foot.

    Building nice houses in Portland costs $400+per sq/ft, some estimates as high as $600 per sq/ft. And there is no place to build houses...
     
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    Well, you can spend any amount of money building a house. And if you are willing to spend the money, there are places to build houses in the city.

    But, if we are talking about some sort of mass housing development capable of increasing the supply enough to drop prices enough such that homeless people can afford the low end of existing houses... then we aren't talking about high-end houses, and I'd still say the space for that is not anywhere near the primary problem with the plan.

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    Building high-end homes allows the top end of homeowners to move into newer homes. Then their homes have less upward pressure on pricing. Then everyone is able to move up and there is less scarcity on the lower end.

    This might be the wrong thread for it, but if not having space to build isn't the problem, what is the problem?
     
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    They recently just changed it where downtown will allow unlimited height
     
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    Link?
     
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    Portland opens door for unlimited building heights

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    The city of Portland has agreed to amend its planning and zoning code to comply with state requirements to allow adjustments to a range of development standards, especially where housing is proposed. Amendments approved Wednesday allow discussions for unlimited building heights for projects in the Central City.

    The ordinance passed by the Portland City Council is a response to the Oregon Legislature’s passage of Senate Bill 1537 earlier this year. The city is required to comply with the law by Jan. 1, 2025.

    The Housing Adjustments Compliance Project updates the city’s zoning code to align with state standards. The ordinance adopts the Portland Planning Commission’s recommended draft and amends Title 33 of the planning and zoning code
     
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    @kjironman1 there it is
     
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