Coaches faith in Toumani Camara

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  1. Trailblazers76

    Trailblazers76 Active Member

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    I don't get to watch many Blazer games so maybe some of you guys who see a lot of them can help me out. Why has a second round draft pick been given so much respect by Billups? I'm not knocking him, it just surprises me. I like that he plays hard on defense and unlike the rest of the team is not made of glass. But the production doesn't blow me away. Again, how does a second rounder get the key to the city?
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    What he does out there doesn’t necessarily show up in the stat sheet. Coaches LOVE and NEED this if you want to succeed. All successful teams have players you don’t have to run a play for, yet help them win.
     
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    He's a tone-setter. He plays balls-to-the-wall 100% of the time and has a bit of a temper to him. If you ever played pickup with someone like that you'll know that they make everybody take it a lot more seriously.
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    He hopefully will get all nba defense votes. He can guard multiple positions with ease.
     
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    He's a top 10 perimeter defender in the league, period. His pay and his draft status is completely irrelevant. Now, he's starting to hit 3s. This makes him one of the top 3 and d wings in the league.
     
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    He sucks less than the alternatives
     
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    Because he is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league? If we had one of the best perimeter offensive players in the league, they’d get love also
     
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    Jabari Walker was Toumani before Toumani was, and maybe it's time Jabari got some more minutes (just not at center like Billups tried him at a couple of games ago).
     
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    I love Jabari. But where would you play him? His biggest problem is defense: lack of lateral speed and inability to change direction quickly.
     
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    I agree. I like him too, and love his relentless hustle as a rebounder. But he is limited to guarding PFs. A solid bench player in case of injuries.

    Camara on the other hand has shown that he can switch off and guard multiple positions. And as long as he can continue to shoot the 3 ball well enough to spread the floor I am fine with him starting. He just needs to be the 5th option on offense.
     
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    Jabari = Mark Bryant?
     
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    He puts in the work, stays humble, defensive savant. Blazers suck, their vets do at least… makes decent sense that he gets PT
     
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    No

    Walker never defended like Toumani nor shoot the 3 like he does. Walker defends centers better than wings, he doesn't have the foot speed to do half of what Toumani can. Their two of the most dissimilar Blazers until you start comparing PG to C.
     
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    The only thing he does well is rebound.

    I wanted him cut off the roster in preseason.

    I would however start him over Ayton.
     
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    Walker is good at scoring close to the basket. He has fakes and doesn't nervously miss like, say, Nurkic or Plumlee. He may be my favorite current Blazer (who must be an underdog; I never pick a star).
     
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    made me curious, so, some 'big' men and their career FG% at rim (0-3' @bbref)

    Timelord .809
    Ayton .765 (padded by his time with CP3)
    Whiteside .740
    Plumlee .715
    Rasheed .682
    Robin Lopez .666
    Nurkic .615
    Brian Grant .610
    Sabonis .609
    Camby .606
    Kaman .593


    Jarett Allen .750
    Shaq .745
    AD .745
    Gobert .744
    Embiid .742
    Adebayo .728
    Sabonis .718
    Jokic .717
    Myles Turner .717
    KAT .706
    Capela .699
    Zubac .693
    Hartenstein .691
    Jaren Jackson .677


    obviously, this is an incomplete picture. It's one thing to shoot a high percentage; it's a different thing to shoot a high percentage AND have a high FT rate

    career FT rates:

    Plumlee .588
    Whiteside .385
    Nurkic .383
    Timelord .273
    R. Lopez .270
    Ayton .191

    Gobert .706
    Shaq .578
    Embiid .551
    Adebayo .423
    AD .411
    D. Sabonis .373
    Jokic .316

    and yeah, that rate needs to be gauged by percentage of shots taken at the rim, average shot distance, assisted FG rate, conversion rate on FT's....no thanks
     
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    Walker needs to play angry and get mean down low. Use his size and dunk over anyone and/or make them pay for trying to stop him. I don’t understand being that big and playing small. The entire team needs to be on a steady diet of Barkley highlights. The guy is 6’4 and would destroy any in his path except Shaq.
     
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    What's Walkers?
     
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    FG% at rim = .653
    FT Rate = .296
     
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