Eating Crow about Scoot

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  1. KingSpeed

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    I would think no since he was in the last two.
     
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    11/35 (31%) is not good, either. Here is the team per 48, last 10 games, sorted by effectiveness points. Hoopsstats has a reasonable formula for effectiveness points.

    https://www.hoopsstats.com/basketba...-trail-blazers/team/playerstats/25/25/6-3-eff
     
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    The goal will have to much more limited: How many plays involve him without his losing Blazer possession. Currently, including his best games, he causes a loss of 2-possessions-in-a-row at least 3 times per game, and 3 possessions-in-a-row about once per game. And that's in limited minutes.

    Unless you're living in a hopeful dream, you know by watching that he's not ready. He'll look like a clown if he tries to last a full game. Same for Clingan.
     
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    I'm fine with them looking like clowns for now. We'll get better draft position and they'll get the clown play out of their system when nobody is watching.
     
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    Anyone still think he has Derrick Rose level athleticism?

    I still can’t believe people were buying that from Peek and Vecenie
     
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    The problem is that he doesn't know what to do with his bountiful athleticism. He has no drive to innovate or imitate the moves of the greats. Coaches must spoonfeed him nibbles of knowledge, like Meyers Leonard, who had no athletic instincts. Little Scooter is way closer to being a natural than Leonard, though. Sorry I made the comparison.
     
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    The guy is young, and has spent his entire life thriving on his athleticism. He is now faces talent that negates that value, and he will have to adjust. I get the feel that he is all in, and will develop the finesse he needs. Still early in the game.
     
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    Had 3 really good games in a row.... a sentence I didn't think I would type this season.
     
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    Get Chauncey away from him and get him a coach that will actually put him in a position to use his strengths.
     
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    We could have had this kid over weak ass scoot
     
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    Thompson is a Forward?
    Who do you sit if you want Thompson? Deni? Tou?
    I'm assuming you are not implying that you would play Thompson at PG? You do realize Thompson can't shoot right? He's shooting 24% from three.
    Understand I don't like the way everything went down. I would have kept Dame. But then you didn't like Dame either. As I recall you continuously called him "weak ass" as well. Just wondering where you are going with all this?
     
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    What did he do there that Scoot can't do? Scoot can dunk too... Though Scoot probably would have been passing to Sharpe or Deni for the dunk...
     
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    Amen is Atleast a great defender an elite one at that
     
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    I don't think it's a stretch to suggest that Amen and Deni could be a very effective pair of point-forwards.

    Also, if we had drafted Amen, it's likely we wouldn't have traded for Deni in the first place. But if we did, there's no reason they couldn't co-exist.

    Regardless, hand-wringing over who we didn't draft is silly.
     
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    Scoot has 1 ok game out of every 10 outings, and some diehards come here and act like people should "eat crow" over 1 game where his shooting % isn't abysmal.
     
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    The buzz with Amen going into the draft was that he could be a point guard. In fact, the high level upside was based on him being an on ball creator.

    Now imagine Amen/Deni/Toumani in the same lineup. That's a KILLER lineup defensively. Add in Clingan and that should be a top 5 defense. You could probably hide Dame in that lineup and still have a top 5 defense.

    Here is one example:

    https://www.nba.com/draft/2023/prospects/amen-thompson

    The Rockets haven't been able to give him that role because of all the other guys they have on the roster. He's doing all this NOW without having the ball in his hands, but imagine what he could do if a team put the ball into his hands and developed him as a point guard.
     
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    Yep. I would have kept Dame if at all possible.
     
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    and a bottom-5 offense
     

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