Betting Odds Miller/Scoot at #2/#3

Good luck and welcome to the forum!

 

Are you Tunchi?

 

I’ve also been thinking about the Miller/Scoot odds, and it’s a tough call. Both are solid players with a lot of potential, but the ranking at #2/#3 depends on how their teams shape up this season. Miller has that consistency, but Scoot’s energy and ability to change the game are exciting, too. I’d lean toward Miller for the steady performance if I had to pick, but Scoot could surprise us. If you want more analysis on their odds, I’d recommend checking out https://themulligans.org . They dive deep into player stats and performance trends that might help you make a more informed decision!

 

Your about a year and a half late.

Miller was clearly the vastly superior option in hindsight.

 

Millers as equally efficient as scoot and 1.5 years older.. I’m not too worried as we don’t need him as much as Scoot on this roster in the future.

 

what are you gauging efficiency on?

2pt FG%: Miller .490....Scoot .424
3pt FG%: Miller .366....Scoot .319
FT%: Miller .846....Scoot .801
eFG%: Miller .519....Scoot ..443
TS%: Miller .548....Scoot .492
FG% at rim: Miller .681....Scoot .511

a clean sweep for Miller and it's not really close in any category. Now, Scoot does beat Miller in FT rate, .264 vs .160. And, 66% of Miller's shots have been assisted while 37% of Scoot's shots have been assisted. So there is a bit of mitigation in those efficiency metrics

Scoot's career assist/turnover ratios are .167 career, and .194 this season. Those are not good and the opposite of decent passing efficiency.

yeah, Miller is older but at a certain point people need to stop using that as an excuse. Miller just turned 22 and he's been playing against starters since he entered the league; Scoot has generally been playing against 2nd units. And Miller only has 10 more games of NBA experience than Scoot

 

I bet any amount of money Miller goes second.

 

Just for fun, would people rather have Miller or Deni?

 

close call, probably Avdija because of his utility

 

Deni's skill set is harder to find IMO. I know I have been waiting for someone like him for a while. Other forwards I have hoped would succeed with his skill set did not. (Either because they were injury-prone or could not shoot at all) But I love having a forward who can help out with facilitating the offense so the guards can focus on shooting. We always need at least 3 ball handlers on the floor. (especially in the playoffs)

But......we also need a forward who is a big-time scorer. Hopefully in this draft.

 

I will Hindsightadamus the shit out of the prediction and put a 100 on Charlotte winning the 2nd lottery pick and then using it on Brandon Miller.

 

isn't a Hindsightadamus a dinosaur from the creosote period?

 

Well I meant it more that Miller was the right choice for Charlotte. Lot of debate even after the draft if they made the right choice.

Obviously Blazers just took who was left.

I do remember some Amen supporters at #3.... it didn't take long for that to look like the far better option in hindsight.

 

By far Miller. I remember bringing up a bunch of his stats over the summer, he had one of the most efficient rookie seasons shooting even among guards let along forwards. Larry Bird was about the only player in his tier.

Scoot's comparisons were mostly all busts.

I love Deni game but it's a role player game without much upside.

 

One of the most untrue posts on this board, impressive!

 

Scoot is a "better" shooter from range and better distributor. Amen is better scoring closer to the basket and rebounding.

It's kind of hard to compare them. Amen is taller, Maybe that gives him the edge as far as being the better choice? But he's definitely not a PG.

Scoot has been played off the ball far too much, IMO.

We have plenty of athletic wings who can't shoot the 3 ball.

 

Yeah, but don't we eventually want an offense with a lot of ball movement? If so, then Scoot better learn to play off the ball like everyone else.
And I already see improvement for him in that area. He will get there.

He reminds me a little of Kyle Lowry who struggled a bit until his 4th or 5th season......
until he improved his 3 pt shot which seemed to open things up for him.

 

Of course. But Scoot needs to initiate the offense. He is a constant threat to get a paint touch, and that is very disruptive for a defense to guard against. Once he gets more used to finishing in the paint or dishing to the shooters/slashers he'll be a much more effective. But he needs to do it game in and game out, IMO.