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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    And your conception of the DNC is ridiculous. You really think Jaime Harrison is anything more than a glorified event planner?

    You do, but he isn't.
    (or wasn't, I think his term may be over).

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    Probably violence.
     
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    Any movement will require leadership. The Democrats could actually do it without a huge uprising if they'd just focus on protecting individual rights (by doing things like eliminating citizens United, as they could have done with Obama and Biden) improving access to education, healthcare, and the social safety net.

    They could have made huge progress on all of those fronts if they would have just focused on them. Both under Obama and under Biden.
     
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    Who was it that voted to give Hillary control over the DNC leading up to the 2016 election?
     
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    How are voters supposed to make an educated vote when the DNC is pulling the strings in the media? That's how they stopped Bernie and a primary. That's how they force fed us Hilary and Biden and convince people like you to repeat nonsense like "blue no matter who" and "Biden doesn't have cognitive issues, it's just his stuttering."
     
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    They ain't going to give it up. It needs to be ripped from them. Probably violently.
     
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    That would fucking suck. Until then I'm going to keep advocating for Democrats to do better.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Probably, but maybe we should try non-violent options first.

    Just a thought.

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    That's what I've been advocating for. What you are advocating for (waiting for the people to to get fed up) is going to wind up as violence.
     
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    As if people haven't been trying already while thousands die each year from the healthcare system, homelessness and the pollutants put into our foods because industries have successfully lobbied the Democratic party to allow them to.

    "Trying non-violent options first." Ha. As if people haven't been trying for decades.

    I'm not suggesting it, I'm merely telling it like it is. The establishment ain't giving you anything. You have to rip it away from them. That's just being realistic.

    Unless the left finds their own Trump. Jon Stewart, come on down!
     
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    Pelosi's husband took a hammer to the skull and she STILL CAME BACK.

    Think about that for a second.
     
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    Money talks. Hillary funded the DNC, Bernie didn't. Hillary also had multiple allies in the DNC, Bernie didn't.

    Big surprise, the DNC was more interested in doing what Hillary wanted than what Bernie wanted.

    Bernie played the game well, but not well enough. He didn't get the necessary votes - not from the DNC, but from actual voters. Bernie lost.

    Then, with Hillary completely out of the picture in 2020, and having the benefit of seeing in hindsight what happened in 2016, Bernie lost again.

    Sometimes our favored candidates don't win. In fact they usually don't.

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    I don't think I've advocated for waiting for anything. We collectively have the power, and have always had the power, to change things.

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    People don't collectively do anything gracefully. They follow somebody who is a leader or some emotional trigger.

    You blaming the voters is exactly you advocating for waiting for a revolution.
     
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    Do you really think information about candidates is unavailable to voters?
    How is it that you know things? Are you just parroting the DNC party line yourself?
    If not, do you have some secret source of information that no one else has? Why won't you share it with others?

    Voters have plenty of ways to educate themselves, if they actually wanted to.

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    Gosh, it's almost like we need the Democrats to do something... I feel like I've heard somebody say that...

    So once again, We need the Democrats to focus on the things that Bernie was focusing on.
     
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    Oh, I agree, voting is not graceful. It's a dirty, messy process, but that's what I'm advocating for.

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    You lost. We lost. The guy everyone called an existential crisis, Donald Trump, is receiving fist bumps from the likes of Schumer and hosts from MSNBC.

    Keep at it. Maybe you'll get there.
     
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    Yes.

    I'm interested and I'm on the younger side.

    How does that make sense? I've been accused of being a Trump supporter?

    Who told you that I won't share it with others?

    You say that and then you go off repeating false narratives and lies that the mainstream news put into your head. Proving my actual point...
     
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