The Current Blazers Dark Ages

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It depends on who is defining Dark.

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    but you know what the narrative will be? That Cronin should be fired because if we would have lost a few more games, we coulda had Flagg…
     
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    That'd be a disingenuous narrative though. It's a lottery for a reason.
     
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    Unfortunately we're nowhere close. I was way more optimistic in the Juan Dixon era.

    The Wizards are about the only worse roster than us and they even have better picks - as well as committed to a direction.

    Of course getting a stud in the draft one of these years would help a ton, I was hoping Scoot or Sharpe might be that but they're not. Every year I always hope there's a chance, but odds are probably against us in 2025 especially since we already have a dozen wins.

    Even with a stud we need another great pick and we need to build up assets to trade for that final piece. We have zero of those three items needed to build a playoff winner. All we have are role players, overpaid vets, and young guys with "potential". But we don't have that elite stud potential. We have the guys a hometown fan roots for and the rest of the league disregards.

    My fear is ownership gets impatient and we basically become a West version of what the Bulls were the last half decade, certainly not winning but no longer even getting good picks.

    I'd guess 2032 is about the break even year of when we'll likely win a playoff series again. It was what 15 year from Sheed to Dame so if things go bad if might be closer to 2035 or later.

    The poor ownership is the single biggest factor but of course GM, talent, lack of draft assets, market are all factors too.

    Just a very dark era to be a fan of this franchise and I often question why I even bother.
     
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    Agree on all accounts.
    Except I don't wonder why I'm a fan. I have spent too much time and emotions with too many ups and downs with this team to stop caring.

    I'll always want them to do well and be excited when they do.

    I just can't invest a ton of time or money in them.
     
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  7. HailBlazers

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    Shae has nothing on Juan.
     
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    That 8th pick sure has it's problems.
    Weird how that second pick drops so drastically.
     
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    If they are in the bottom 4 at the end what else could he have actually done? It's the 27 wins that end up with the 8th pick that would hurt.
     
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    I'll get excited when they give me something exciting.

    Right now, short or long term none of it is exciting. And that sucks. But they'll be back and I'll be back. How the world turns.
     
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    Really want top 5 as often as possible while rebuilding. You're just going to have more talent than otherwise.
     
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    I never said I agreed, but ive been here long enough to know what will be the narrative for some. “Four more losses and we would have had four more percent to get him! Major Cronin snd Chauncey fail!”
     
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    27 wins can net us the first pick. See last years draft.
    Four more wins not being losses will be at the center of some people’s outrage.
     
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    Not often. As I mentioned “Getting us the 8th pick” is what 27 wins usually gets.
     
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    What I see is Joe is doing what Joe said he was going to do. Rebuild as quickly as possible. If the Blazers get the #1 pick this year it probably will be sooner than if they continue to get 6th and 7 th picks. Thing is he can only control so much?
     
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    I don't see how having overpaid vets like Ayton, Ant, Grant, Thybulle earning 10-35 million each provides any benefit to doing a "rebuild as quickly as possible".
     
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    Sure we have. We’ve won 4 of our last 10 games. We have promising young players. We’ll get another one this year. Look at how the Pistons were a couple years ago. Look at how they are now.
     
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    If you want to see a good team soon, we must stay the course. Dame ain’t coming back and if he did, we still wouldn’t be a winning team. Don’t worry. We’ll have a really good team in about two years. You’re only 70. I’m 50. We have no idea when we die so there is no set window.
     
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    Cleveland’s goal was LeBron
    San Antonio’s goals were Duncan and VW
    Dallas’ goal was Luka
     
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    You’ve given up on Scoot and esp Sharpe way too quickly.
     

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