Eating Crow about Scoot

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  1. KingSpeed

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    And keep in mind, Nash averaged almost 4 turnovers when he won MVP.
     
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    Wasn’t able to watch the game but it’s that Scoot balled out again.

    Also nice that the little pesky booger Trapani has another game where he can’t pipe up and talk shit
     
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    Highlight was an offensive rebound that Scoot flew in for and scored. His defense was great too. Better than Dame ever was on that end. Bulls’ starting PG scored 0 points. Their SG scored 9.
     
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    It's a theory based in bias. Scoot's good games don't correspond with the lack of vet presence, nor do they reflect slow starts that he overcame with more minutes. He played well and got more time.

    The best one could say is he's playing off the ball less lately, which probably does correspond with him performing better. Even that isn't all that clear cut, though, as his improved shooting is generally a reflection of the spot up shooting he practiced in that secondary role.
     
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    I wanted to point out that at 2:35 seconds left in the third Scoot made a left handed layup. That is all.
     
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    Is it uncommon for a right handed player to use the other hand for layups?
     
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    Have you not been watching Scoot??? Dude unnaturally goes reverse with his right hand and misses layups doing it, a lot. It's been very limiting for him so far.

    So it was great to see him do that. You are right that most right handed players can use their left when it is needed.
     
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    So scoot is good now? Nice
     
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    you don't see the improvement or are you that biased?
     
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    Scoots TS% on the year, is now almost identical to Simons. Which is more of an indictment of how crappy pouty Simons has been this year.
     
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    Following Wemby in the 23 draft, I saw it as 3 guys who could be argued for. Miller had the most NBA ready game with his plus shooting, but others like Amen and Scoot had higher upside as superior athletes and ballhandlers if they could improve their shooting. Both had poor form on their jumpers. But where Scoot's shot mechanics needed some tweeking, Amen's needed a complete tear down start over. Physically his gifts are obvious & he's got some elite skills on both ends, but it's a real question whether his J will ever be servicable. His 3Pt% has improved from 14 to 25% but he's barely shooting them and thats a pretty large hole in the game for anyone especially a guard. If he does add that ability he has All NBA potential. It certainly would have been an interesting Trailblazer defensive squad to add Amen to Deni, Camara & Clingan though such a lineup would really be lacking in perimeter threats to spread the court.

    Back on draft day I liked Scoot and Amen more then Miller & still do today. Both are improving their skills and excelling in year 2 though I'd note Scoot is doing so while being over a year younger. His 3 ball is already servicable and improving. If it continues on to the point its a stength, he will quickly ascend to an elite level PG.

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    I can say your take is also bias and theory. If you want the truth just let the guy play and see what we got. Its not that hard to understand.
     
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    What did I miss?
     
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    I don't believe it's worthwhile, at this point, comparing any of Scoot's numbers to a HOF player in his MVP season

    in Nash's 1st MVP season he averaged 3.3 turnovers (not 4). BUT, he averaged 11.5 assists. Scoot's averaging 5.3. Nash's assist/turnover ratio was 3.48. Scoot's is 1.89. Nash's team won 62 games; Scoot's has won 14. Nash's assist rate was 49.2% in 34.3 minutes, while Scoot's is 29.3% in 26.8 minutes; meaning Nash spent a hell of a lot more time every game with the ball in his hands, and that inevitably would lead to more turnovers. Per 100-Possessions, Scoot is averaging 9.5 assists and 5.1 turnovers. Nash averaged 16.7 assists and 4.8 turnovers

    as I've said, Scoot's recent play in this 4 game blitz is really encouraging; Same for January. He looks like a different player. In those 4 games he's averaged 7.7 assists and 3.7 turnovers. In those 4 games he's averaging 57% on FG's and 53% on three's. In the 10 games of January Scoot is averaging 5.7 assists & 3.3 turnovers. In the same 10 games Scoot is shooting 50% on FG's and 44% on three's.

    I'd say all those passing numbers are sustainable. But that kind of shooting isn't. I'm assuming his shooting efficiency will regress but there's a decent chance it will regress to a higher level than his norms. It looks like he may have climbed to a higher plateau and established new baselines.
     
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    Thanks. I din't notice those details
     
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    Scoot, over his past 15 games (ie, 1 month)

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    I'm not displeased
     
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    And....... you know...... A LEFT HANDED LAYUPPPPPPPPP!
     
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    Still hoping for Ant to San Antonio.

    Grant to Lakers.

    Ayton to..... anyone.

    I don't really care about Thybulle. He can stay.

    Is the second apron really 190? So for example, are the Bucks really 50 million above the second apron?
     
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