Please go back and reread….. I never claimed rape isn't sexual assualt. I am saying not all sexual assault is rape. Does that minimize the assault? No. Its simply applying levels, just like the law does. But in this case, apparently the laws differentiation doesn't matter to some. The laws apparently matter only when convenient or aligning with opinions… But isn't that what the left claims the right does around here??? This double standard is so glaringly obvious, i cant believe no one is stepping up. And then some wonder why others think there is a leftist clique around here protecting one another…
Comparing a slap on the ass and forced penis penetration is absolutely apples and oranges and easy enough to differentiate. Does anyone actually think the mental anguish and trauma, let alone physical effects are the same? Is anyone actually saying they are the same? I bet if you poll 100 women, 99 will agree they are not the same. To me the defense of this is ridiculous for anyone to claim they are the same. It brings to question the sanity of some. Or the open biased opinions of some.
Its defined by the law. And here you are a man telling another man what the definition is in the same breath claiming a man should define it. But you just dod and you said phats is on his right to do so as well. Im sorry the double standards are lost on you.
This is a perfect example of “when its convenient” instead of steadfast impartiality… Excuse me while i go vomit now….
This morning i wS reminded of how partial i am and how i still cant admit facts and someone called me lut for it so i posted an immature post trying to make him look bad instead of actually addressing the content of the post. Waaaahhhaaaaaa!!!!!! For fucks sake immaturity is so prevalent in some….
I never said you claimed that. I never claimed you minimized anything. I am just explaining why others can come to define those two things equally or at least under the same umbrella.
Im done. Not worth the back and forth. I know what the law says and i know what an impartial opinion of that law should be. Everyone else is entitled to their opinion as well. However wrong it is. Moving on now.
Sexual assault is not always merely a simple slap on the ass. It can be for sure. Rape and sexual assault exist under the same umbrella. A woman can be just as traumatized by sexual assault as she can be by rape. It depends on the experience.
I don't think there is any double standard there. He is just saying phats or anyone with a daughter/granddaughter is going to see those things very similarly if not really the same. If someone touches their daughter/granddaughter in any unwanted sexual way, that person will be lucky to remain breathing. That seems to be the gist.
I don’t know what any of the laws are regarding “sexual assault” or “rape” are, and neither does my son. We were both raised in a proper way that taught us to treat people the certain way, so that will NEVER come into effect/affect. Neither of us will ever or have ever been accused of being racist as well. Neither of those accusations will ever be tossed our way. Glad that isn’t something I have to go look up.
How does it make no sense? Sexual assault is any unwanted sexual contact. Rape is unwanted sexual contact with penetration. If you draw a venn diagram they meet in the middle.
Sounds to me like mansplaining. You telling a female how they should feel after being touched inappropriately. Would that be, "fuck their feelings?" And sorry dude, the "law" doesn't mean shit to me after 150 lawbreakers/insurrectionists were just pardoned for (wait for it) breaking the law!! The law is what Donald J. Trump and his Republican posse say it is. THAT is an actual double standard. And if so many people are disagreeing with you over such an extended period of time, it might be time to wonder why.....other than because we're all just a bunch of assholes.....
The whole argument stems from Trump's civil liability. He was found liable of sexual assault, but part of his victims testimony was that he penetrated her. He sued and won against a newspaper that said he raped someone because of some technicality and some mistakes on their use of language. They should have published the finding he was found liable of.
He has never been convicted of sexual assault. He was found liable in a civil case. He was not found "guilty", and it was not a "conviction". Did he penetrate a woman's vagina without permission? I believe he did. Did he have to pay a financial penalty as a result? Yes. Is that an entry on his criminal record? No, it is not. Especially in the legal system, words have specific meaning. Particularly in a thread about "fact vs opinion", it would be good to get the facts of this right.
Yeah, I had to write the post quickly this morning. Should have been more careful with the language I used. Thanks. Fixed it. I had already noted it was civil and not criminal. Sorry, he was found liable. Guilty.
I asked females on FB. They agree with me. Not you and a few others. To think the trauma of being slapped on the ass would be the same as being forcibly penetrated is a joke to them. They said there are levels to sexual assault. And technically it is an assault for anyone to touch anyone else regardless of where. But yeah. A few men telling me im mansplaining is laughable to them. Facts are facts and definitions matter. They matter to the law and should matter to all citizens as well. But just not here it seems… Or… only when its convenient and suites their agenda…
Oh and btw. Instead of trying to silence men, telling me i have no place to have an opinion, they welcome the discussion and appreciate my desire to gain more knowledge. Not one person belittled me for asking because im a man…. Unlike this place….
