<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Aug 4 2006, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>not neecesarily....the randy johnson signing: the DBacks coulda went after him..they had won a WS 3 years before, they had money.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Aug 3 2006, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Aug 3 2006, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>buddy - their payroll is 15 mil! THEY ARE GETTING 30 MILLION IN TAX ReVENUE FROM THE REST OF BASEBALL...thats a profot of 15 million right there (WITHOUT a single ticket sold!)...and its not like their owner is poor...if hes rich enough to afford a team, then hes rich enough to try to make it better</div>Take a 0 off of that and its more realistic.Revanue Sharing is a joke.</div>0 off what?maybe it is - not Steinbrenners fault. Blame that on Selig. Steinbrenner is playing by the rules.</div>You're comparing the new york yankees to the d-backs in terms of money which is ridicoulous. You're comparing the biggest market to one of the mediocre's. You're comparing 1 ship to 26. It doesnt matter if the d-backs won 1 world series the yankees have been winning since forever. There's no way The d-backs couldve competed in terms of resigning Randy.
i know the Arizona markte isnt as good...but the DBacks still had a lot of money left over when they won the WS (teams get so much extra revenue) and so did the yankees. but that brief period, the DBacks had a chance but didnt want him
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Aug 5 2006, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i know the Arizona markte isnt as good...but the DBacks still had a lot of money left over when they won the WS (teams get so much extra revenue) and so did the yankees. but that brief period, the DBacks had a chance but didnt want him</div>And the yankees had revenue from the 26 they won. Dback's still didnt have enough money to get Randy. Like I said you cant compare tHE NY market to the d-backs because George wouldve went much higher than Arizona's highest offer. Add to that Randy knew his team was sinking. He lost his pitching partner in Schilling and the d-backs started bringing up more rookies and he saw Luis Gonzalez's production was sinking fast. Randy didnt want to stay in Arizona either.
but the fact that randy didnt want to stay is totally unrelated. thats a reality for every Free Agency negotiation.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Aug 6 2006, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>but the fact that randy didnt want to stay is totally unrelated. thats a reality for every Free Agency negotiation.</div>No, Some players want to stay with their teams and others dont. It depends on the money and their situation. Bottom Line Arizona has no chance to compete with NY in terms of Signing big name players.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Aug 6 2006, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Aug 6 2006, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>but the fact that randy didnt want to stay is totally unrelated. thats a reality for every Free Agency negotiation.</div>No, Some players want to stay with their teams and others dont. It depends on the money and their situation. Bottom Line Arizona has no chance to compete with NY in terms of Signing big name players.</div>You're both argueing a rather comical point considering that the Yankees TRADED FOR Randy Johnson.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Aug 6 2006, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Aug 6 2006, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Aug 6 2006, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>but the fact that randy didnt want to stay is totally unrelated. thats a reality for every Free Agency negotiation.</div>No, Some players want to stay with their teams and others dont. It depends on the money and their situation. Bottom Line Arizona has no chance to compete with NY in terms of Signing big name players.</div>You're both argueing a rather comical point considering that the Yankees TRADED FOR Randy Johnson.</div>I knew something was strange about this because I didn't remember a signing battle. If it really did happen then what I said wouldve taken place.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Aug 6 2006, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Aug 6 2006, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Aug 6 2006, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>but the fact that randy didnt want to stay is totally unrelated. thats a reality for every Free Agency negotiation.</div>No, Some players want to stay with their teams and others dont. It depends on the money and their situation. Bottom Line Arizona has no chance to compete with NY in terms of Signing big name players.</div>You're both argueing a rather comical point considering that the Yankees TRADED FOR Randy Johnson.</div>
Not really funny when you think about it since I was just comparing markets and the Big Unit's options. Hahaha nekreb.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Aug 3 2006, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Adrop, there's no point to keep arguing. Yankee fans will never understand that not all teams can spend excessively like they can. They'll always think that teams CHOOSE to suck because they don't have the money to spend like they do.</div>Of course most teams can't spend as much as we do. But some can. You do realize that The Boss isn't the richest owner in sports right? Not even close. The Cubs could pay 180 mil for their roster if they wanted to, they choose not to.And it's not the spending figure. Teams like the Mariners can afford to spend 140-160, why don't they? Because the profit margains aren't as large when you try your hardest to win.Also, teams claim "We can't afford to spend more than 60 million." It might be true that they'll lose money if they spend 80 million, but there is a very well known business saying "You have to spend money to make money" that rings very true here. The reason the Yankees are the richest, most beloved sports team in the world is because they went into debt in order to make money.It's like a dry cleaner business sitting back and making their 50 grand in profits every year. Slow but steady income. It's like if they complained that the store across town now has 4 locations and is making 300 grand a year, because they invested in the market and reaped what they sowed. The other Dry Cleaners had to go into debt and take out loans to build and expand, but now they are the better business because they didn't sit there with their thumb up their ass and watch the competition outstretch them.Pittsburgh and Philly both have the same general marketing ability as the Red Sox had, and they sat with their thumbs up their asses and watched the Bosox explode into monetary greatness while they collected their steady income. It's a choice for most teams. Teams that can't compete financially (IE the Royals) should either move or be contracted. I'm sorry your team is in a shitty market with no fans, but when a business chooses a location that stinks, you know what happens? They go out of business or relocate.I'm all for a cap, as long as it comes with a minimum. If the NFL didn't have a minimum, Minnesota wouldn't have had that spending fest they did a couple years ago. They had to spend a bunch of money, otherwise they'd have been fined and lost draft picks for not spending enough. That's something Baseball should do. A hard cap of say 130-140 million would be fair, if it came with a hard minimum of say 80-90 million.There is no excuse for a team spending 15 million. If that's all they can afford, forced relocation/contraction is in order, because obviously it's not a viable business venture. Businesses that can't compete in the real world either go out of business or relocate. Sad, I know all 2 thousand loyal Marlin fans will be severly disappointed, but that's the breaks. I'm sure there were plenty of people who enjoyed "New Coke" as well, but when there aren't enough supporters for a product, like the Marlins and Royals, that product gets pulled from the shelves and replaced.
