Trade Deadline: February 6, 2025

Go Kings!

 

Totally true. We do agree though that the Mavs fucked up and likely could have gotten more for Luka but maybe they just really wanted AD. I don't think the Luka/AD trade has much bearing on the value of a FRP today into tomorrow but I definitely could be wrong.

 

Luka made allNBA first team the last 5 years - every year of his career except as a rookie.

AD made 2nd team last season, none the year prior, none the year prior, none the year prior, and first team his initial year in LA.

Not to mention yeah as you say he's way younger, not even at his peak while the other guys is clearly past his peak. Its by far the worst trade in NBA history.

 

But the Mavs are no longer hindered by having to give a $300+ million contract to a lazy PG who gives no effort on defense and who weighs as much as a PF.
I'm in the minority but I think it will overall be a good move for the Mavs in the long run.

 

You can argue that, but you can't say they made a good deal.

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-deal-falls-through/articleshow/117962857.cms

I know it's a news outlet from India but calling Ingram a "saucy backup plan" is fucking hilarious.

 

I think they made a risky move given more data than what most of us have (that data being - knowledge about Luka's health, motivation and likelihood to want to remain in Dallas). From there - it is hard to say if it was a good or bad deal at this point.

Only time will tell if this was a good or bad deal, they clearly would not have done it if they thought it was a bad deal - so the only question is - is their decision process given what they know that most of us can only speculate about right or wrong? I think it is certainly too early to tell.

 

I can't really remember what Norm's contract was at that time? But it couldn't have been as bad as Grant's right?

 

I think he meant they planned on trading Simons and Grant but they weren't able to. (Prove me wrong tonight, Joe!)

 

He didn't exactly set Milwaukie on fire and they didn't make much, if any to keep him. Hard pass.

 

I don't think Dallas had a "they" in these Luka assessments. "They" just had Nico assessment with all of his impulses, bias and ways that he personally clashed with Luka. He made the decision without his staff over fear the trade wouldn't happen if he discussed with his staff. Dallas had a brand new owner that empowers their executives with a ton of power. The owners are worth 32billion so 90% of their wealth is outside the Mavs/NBA. The new Dallas owners are almost the opposite dynamic of what we usually see with NBA new owners syndrome, instead of too impulsive and interfering too much they didn't have enough oversight or checks and balances. It's been reported that Dallas ownership is now extremely shocked at all of the fallout and criticism.

We've seen crazy power hungry GM's before ruin championship teams, remember Jerry Krause who created an environment where Jordan and Phil felt pushed out of the Bulls and eventually walked away.

 

I don't know anything about the GM in Dallas - but the trade does not happen if the ownership group does not sign on it - so they is the correct term.

Everything else is a conjunction of assumptions I am not privy to. I am still going with "it's too early to tell".

As for Mr. Jerry Krause, sure he was a part of the decisions that broke that team, but he was also the one that built that 6 times championship team...

• Drafted Scottie Pippen while he played at Central Arkansas
• Signed Dennis Rodman, Horace Grant, and Toni Kukoc
• Hired Phil Jackson as an assistant and later as head coach
• Brought in Luc Longley and Steve Kerr

So, I am not sure what this has to do with anything here, either the Dallas Mavericks are right or they are wrong to make this move - only time will tell, but it is not, imho, an absolute no brainer of a bad deal. It's a risky move for sure.

 

Whitmore seems ok. Not yet 21, about 7 rebounds and 2 stocks per 36. His FT shooting went up in his second year but 3 pt shooting went down. He would probably be a good player off the bench for us? I don't really know what Joe and Chauncey think about Williams. There are quite a few games when it is not back to back and he still doesn't play.

 

update on ESPN.com


Feb. 5
6:44 p.m. ET: With the Golden State Warriors moving on from their pursuit of Kevin Durant, it appears they have a new player in their sights, as ESPN's Shams Charania reported on NBA Countdown: "The Heat are getting closer and closer. We are nearing the end of this saga between Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat. ... The Warriors' priority, from what I'm told, has been Jimmy Butler."

 

Well, that's like saying that the Blazers did not draft LMA or Roy, they traded for them on draft day (which they did). But the historical records show that that Bulls targeted him before the draft and made the trade for the right pick they believed they would be able to get him - so by all intent and purposes, they drafted him.

 

I’m hoping for Simons to the Magic for Isaac and a pick. I’d even

 

Not sure it makes a difference. Their goal was to get under the luxury tax threshold and they achieved it in that trade by dumping Norm and RC.
So I think the comparison is valid. Blazer fans want Joe to dump salaries this time around