Game Thread 2024-25 GAME #58 - BLAZERS @ JAZZ - FEBRUARY 24, 2025 - MON - 6:00 PM - CHARGE - BLAZERVISION

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Chris Craig, Feb 23, 2025.

  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    an exception to a general rule doesn't necessarily disprove the rule

    besides that, his salary this season is an aberration. His salary last season was 17.4M and his salary next season is 15M. Apparently it was legal to front-load his contract in such a manner. His previous deal paid him 17.4M/year. His new deal averages 16.8M/year; and over the next 4 years averages less than 16M/year. A 1 year blip doesn't alter that reality

    further, his new 5-year/84M deal is not fully guaranteed. Only 48M is guaranteed; and that only for the first 3 years; and only 23M is guaranteed over the next 2 seasons, . This was a very team-friendly contract and not too many starters have a 5-year deal with only 57% of the contract value guaranteed. That's definitely a back-up level contract

    not the same as making Simons a backup at 28M; or Grant at 33M/year; or Ayton at 36M
     
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    Should read I don’t hate Simons and Grant but I do hate winning with them
     
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    absolutely wasted season! Played your vets who supposedly aren’t part of the future and not starting your two corner stone franchise players. Makes absolutely no sense. Also by playing your vets you’ve secured a mid to late lottery pick, out fuvking standing! Don’t learn from the San Antonio’s of the world.

    oh and the value of one of your highest paid players Grant is dropping like the stock market crash of 1929. Most likely have to attach a late first rounder to dump his salary during the summer
     
  4. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    An exception to the rule proves that the rule is not "hard and fast", but flexible. Point is, Aldo claims that top-2 salaries on a team will "ALWAYS" start, and that's clearly not true. Grant and/or Simons being reserves would also be exceptions to the rule, but it's not as though exceptions don't exist.
     
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    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    Does the Trail Blazer organization know? They seem just as confused. What team comes out with a set of 3 glasses for bench players?

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    I'm not going to defend Aldo's absolutes

    but I will say I can't ever see Simons or Grant or Ayton as bench players as long as Chauncey is coach and Cronin is GM
     
  7. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Clearly the cups should have been made of pine.
     
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    Or featured Thybulle and RWIII. Actually, pine would have been fitting for them, too.
     
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  9. AldoTrapani

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    Ok name 2 more
     
  10. AldoTrapani

    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

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    Exactly
     
  11. AldoTrapani

    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

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    Thank you..

    I don’t know why these homers keep bitching about Simon’s needs to come off the bench. Ayton and Grant for that matter as well.

    ITS NEVER HAPPENING!

    These guys get paid over 100 and 120M dollars each! It’s unheard of for players to come off the bench for that type of money..

    They could literally all suck balls and it still won’t happen..

    Half your starters on the nba are basically your top paid guys.. like I said before ugly unwritten rule in sports
     
  12. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    One is enough to refute your claim and to support the contention that benching Grant would not be out of line.

    Take the L and move on.
     
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    Haha suuure..


    Like @wizenheimer said an exception to a general rule doesn't necessarily disprove the rule
     
  14. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    And as I said, an exception does invalidate its intractability.

    Take the L and move on.
     
  15. Cugel

    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    Simons, Ayton and Grant will always start on this team with this coach/management/ownership regardless of their performance/stats. I am sure more than a few non-fans who follow the game closely are scratching their heads with regards to this team's direction.
     
  16. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    No I hate watching both, but especially Simons.
     
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  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It's funny to me that the same people who are happy about the stupid wins this season are the SAME PEOPLE who argued for years that we shouldn't trade Dame.

    You were wrong then and you're wrong now.
     
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    I think we traded Dame around the right time. I liked Dame but we needed new direction. Problem is not sure we have a new direction. We’ve added some nice pieces but not trading Ant and Grant at trade deadline was huge mistake. These meaningless wins while our two franchise players sit is just one of the dumbest things I’ve seen a franchise do. Going to come a point where these young guys check out and potentially decide this ain’t the place for them to advance their careers. No way in hell Scoot shouldn’t be starting, and I still think Sharpe would be better off in starting lineup. Defensively he sucks and effort is questionable but his offense is top level potential.
     
  19. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Long athletic two way wings

    Definitely more emphasis on defense with players

    I legit think we have a direction for the first time in a long time
     
  20. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    For sure, but there was people who were adamant up until the very end that Dame should stay. And those people were the same people who are now happy with these meaningless wins.
     
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