Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    It’s funny watching you guys flip flop between “Ukraine is winning, Russia is so weak lol!” endzone celebrations one minute, then “womp womp Russia is gonna take over the entire world…frownie face” the next minute, depending on which globalist narrative you happen to be running with at that given moment.
    There isn’t an ounce of truth in any of the neoliberal propaganda that gets spewed here. The left just unwittingly cheers for BlackRock while complaining about “the corporations maaaaaan!”.
    Zero self awareness.
     
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  3. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    It's funny how dishonest you are about takes to make yourself feel better.

    Russia claimed they could take Ukraine within days.


    People laugh at them for making that claim and then failing to deliver.

    Ukraine has been exceeding expectations ever since they didn't fall those first few days. And Russia has been failing ever since.

    If a country of 140 million people wants to destroy a country of 30 million people it stands to reason that the country of 140 million people can probably do that, unless the smaller country gets a lot of help.

    Right now, people are disgusted that Trump has turned his back on an ally. On all of our allies.

    Either show up with honest takes or don't show up.
     
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  4. jonnyboy

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    Ukraine isn’t an ally of the American people, quite the contrary. It’s the playground of neoliberal corruption where their stolen tax money is laundered back into the pockets of the politicians and CEOs whole sold the lie in the first place.
    With that being said I am sure the people there are great. It’s horribly tragic their corrupt government has sacrificed so many of them in a failed attempt at forced globalism.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    On the contrary. The US made an agreement to protect Ukraine sovereignty when Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons.

    This is all well documented and has been discussed in this very thread.

    Get that Russian propaganda bullshit out of here.
     
  6. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Sounds like a Trump talking point. And as with Trump's assertions (and most of yours), you bring nothing whatsoever to back it up. Just blah, blah, blah because you said so. It appears to be a boring Wyoming Saturday where you have nothing to do but troll this site in an effort "own the libtards". Personally, I hope Trump and Vance (and people like you) continue to suck Putin's dick. It is going to make the blowback just that much sweeter. For a guy who ran to stay outta jail, Donnyboy is pissing all over America with a fire hose. Eventually America is gonna get tired of the smell.
     
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    Everything he's doing is a distraction and scam so that he can isolate the US. He's an actual Russian asset.

    Fuck that motherfucker
     
  8. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    It is obvious that Putin has some serious dirt on Trump. There is absolutely NO other reason for Trump (who lie like he breathes anyway) to tell such a gargantuan, easily dismissed lie. The entire world knows he is lying yet he just presses ahead blindly like he has no other choice. That stupid fuck is selling the entire world down the river to save himself. Pretty much everything he has done since regaining office is straight outta the dictator's handbook and half of America is too stupid to see it.
     
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    When you don't know the difference betweeen forced globalism and being invaded, guess that says enough about what algorithm drives his news feed and it's paid for with rubles.
     
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    Fred Trump held a pro Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden during this period....and Musk's dad was part of apartheid white power that jailed Nelson Mandela and murdered journalist Steven Biko. Half of the country allowed these assholes to seize power and erase all diplomatic and scientific gains we've made for centuries in the name of more billions for billionaires. This is a war on the poor and disenfranchised people of the world. It will not end well. Macron is now calling for escalating nuclear weapons development in Europe since the US umbrella no longer protects them under Russian ally Trump. Make no mistake, it's Putin who's gambling with WWIII
     
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    Britain's ambassador is being pressured to cancel Trump's meeting in the UK after throwing Zelenski out of the White House. Zelensky will meet with King Charles today and along with all the EU leaders will support Ukraine in it's efforts to thwart Russian aggression. Fuck you Trump! You've shamed my country you spoiled draft dodging liar! This cannot end well for Trump or Vance.
     
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    I think it's possible that trump goes after putin. He look's for any opportunity to show case, what he thinks is his omnipotent power. He knows Putin isn't giving an inch.
     
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    It's actually King Charles but I don't like monarchs regardless.

    Don't know what Putin does or does not have on Trump. But Trump is a weak bully who admires bigger bully. Putin is what he wants to be. Richest man in country. No one dares oppose him and anyone who tries, from politicians to journalists and even ballet dancers fall out of windows. In office for life. Not just above the law, he is the law.
     
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    The guy playing dress up as a “king” and the European Union which has no money to give and no military power to the rescue! I bet Ukraine is jumping for joy.
     
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    Thank you, old habit. I fixed it!
     
  18. Haakzilla

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    Here is a copy n pasta going around the interwebz from the KGB co-sponsored MAGA propaganda farm:

    This Is What Happened.

    Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up.

    However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.

    Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.

    Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.

    When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.

    Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.

    Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.

    So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.

    This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.

    Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them.

    Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democrats' support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him.

    They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.

    Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump's terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.

    By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond.

    Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.

    Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.
     
  19. SlyPokerDog

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    Sigh...
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Less like chess and more like Grandpa Simpson yells at clouds.

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